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Apparently I've never watched this entire thing before because I did not know that Steamboat Willie is an animal abusing asshole.
by noman-land 3y ago
Apparently I've never watched this entire thing before because I did not know that Steamboat Willie is an animal abusing asshole.
- kragen 3y agobasically every cartoon animal is. tom? check. jerry? yeah, him too. wile e. coyote? to the extreme, if ineptly. this is the cartoon version of three stooges humor
- labster 3y agoDonald Duck isn’t, and his Uncle Scrooge would rather abuse his workforce than animals.
- curtisblaine 3y ago(Although his workforce is 100% composed of animals)
- orthoxerox 3y agoDisney's workforce is 100% composed of animals, too.
- dennis_jeeves2 3y agoHomo Corporatus, a very lowly animal indeed.
- patwolf 3y agoEver see the episode where Donald makes his nephews smoke cigars until they're sick?
- mikeyouse 3y agoSo that’s where my uncles got the idea from..
- fallinghawks 3y agoI think that was a common way of trying to teach kids not to smoke.
- jwestbury 3y agoAt least in media, it is. And, of course, King of the Hill skewered the idea by having Bobby get addicted to cigarettes when Hank used this punishment.
- Mountain_Skies 3y agoIn my n=3 experience, that didn't work on any of my friends who got caught and were forced to smoke the entire pack. It also didn't work on my siblings and I when our mother got tired of us pestering her for saltwater taffy so she made us eat an entire bag. If it made us sick, I don't remember that part and either way, it did nothing to dissuade us from further pestering for more until we aged out of having such extreme sweetooths.
- rightbyte 3y agoIt is probably a really bad way though, since the first 5 or whatever cigarettes are the hardest to smoke until you have overruled your natural repulsion of inhaling hot smoke.
- josephg 3y agoSure. But that’s realistic to what animals are actually like. It’s only in modern suburbia that we culturally forget that. Watch cats hunt. Or mice when there’s not enough food (they tear each other to pieces). Or really any animal in their natural habitat. “Hen pecked” isn’t just a turn of phrase. I suspect animal on animal violence is common in old cartoons because more people spent time with animals. The idea that we should stop animals from hurting each other is a very recent notion.
- mcpackieh 3y ago[dead]
- krapp 3y ago>I suspect animal on animal violence is common in old cartoons because more people spent time with animals. The idea that we should stop animals from hurting each other is a very recent notion. I don't think cartoons of the time were intended to present realistic depictions of animal behavior, so much as use them as tropes and archetypes. Rather I suspect physical and slapstick comedy was popular at the time, and that broad style of comedy was easier to portray in a visual medium.
- latexr 3y ago> wile e. coyote? to the extreme How is Wile an “animal abusing asshole”, and “to the extreme”? It’s a primarily carnivorous animal trying to hunt another to eat. It’s not like he’s catching and torturing the Road Runner.
- onionisafruit 3y agoTrue, and despite his best efforts the only animal he ever harms is himself. At least I don’t recall any other animals being harmed.
- kragen 3y agomost people would be comfortable with the assertion that armin meiwes is a 'human-abusing asshole', even though he didn't torture brandes before killing and eating him. perhaps you are among the exceptions
- latexr 3y agoMost people would be comfortable with the assertion that it is absurd to compare a fictional episodic cartoon animal comedy to real life human cannibalism in modern society. It seems you are among the exceptions.
- kragen 3y agothe context of this discussion is that someone described a character in a fictional cartoon animal comedy as an 'animal abusing asshole', so judging interactions between fictional cartoon animal comedy characters using the standards applied to real-life interactions between humans is the entire premise of the discussion. i agree that it leads to absurd conclusions; that's what my comments are designed to demonstrate it's nice that you internalized my thesis so thoroughly, but it's unfortunate that you seem to believe i was arguing against it (unless you think the key difference is that steamboat willie wasn't episodic)
- latexr 3y ago
- LargeTomato 3y agoSilent or low dialogue cartoons that rely on slapstick humor may lean into animal abuse. Cartoon animals like Peppa Pig don't have that problem.
- ksherlock 3y agoPlaying the cat as a musical instrument actually dates back to 1600s. (and "catgut" strings are not made from cat, for the record) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_organ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_organ
- joeframbach 3y agoThe Shimasen traditionally is made with cat skin. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamisen https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamisen. In the Clannad VN, one character names his cat "Shimasen".
- rustcleaner 3y ago*based animal abusing asshole.
- AlexeyBelov 3y agoWhat does it mean?
- noman-land 3y agoI presume they mean this. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/based https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/based