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The whole NYC island was cut into grid lots without taking into things like utilities, just lots, by a realtor. It takes so much more money and effort it servic

The whole NYC island was cut into grid lots without taking into things like utilities, just lots, by a realtor. It takes so much more money and effort it service and maintain all of that. They have no ability to grow the city like Tokyo does. They don't have the engineering ability, or funds. Tokyo has 38m people to NYC's 12m. This is all due to NYC not wanting to think about the future, only preserve the poorly designed past.

woodruffw 3y ago
> The whole NYC island was cut into grid lots without taking into things like utilities, just lots, by a realtor First of all, NYC is not an island. It's 5 different boroughs, four of which are spread across 3 islands with one connected to the mainland. Manhattan is just one borough; it's not the biggest by size or population by a long shot (that would be Queens). Second: I don't know why you think this. Manhattan's grid plan was produced in 1811 by a handful of leading citizen types[1]. It's worth noting that utilities in the sense we mean today weren't really a thing they could plan for in 1811. But, as far as I know, the city's grid really hasn't been an impediment to the city's utility system, besides trash collection. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commissioners%27_Plan_of_1811 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commissioners%27_Plan_of_1811
majormajor 3y ago
Population density around "grid lots" isn't a thing holding NYC back from Tokyo's total population; the land area of Tokyo proper is nearly 3x that of NYC proper for about 1.5x the people. The surrounding area is denser in Tokyo, but the city proper is already denser in NYC (which makes sense if you've seen the building heights in Manhattan).
FooBarBizBazz 3y ago
Brooklyn (Williamsburg)? Jersey City? Hoboken? These have all gone from blue-collar to completely-unaffordable within the lifetime of GenX and elder Millennials. NYC does expand. Now -- funny thing: With the PATH, you can get into the financial district faster from Newark than you can from Brooklyn. So the obvious next thing to do is to gentrify Newark. That's been slow though -- money still remembers the 1967 riots.

woodruffw 3y ago

> The whole NYC island was cut into grid lots without taking into things like utilities, just lots, by a realtor First of all, NYC is not an island. It's 5 different boroughs, four of which are spread across 3 islands with one connected to the mainland. Manhattan is just one borough; it's not the biggest by size or population by a long shot (that would be Queens). Second: I don't know why you think this. Manhattan's grid plan was produced in 1811 by a handful of leading citizen types[1]. It's worth noting that utilities in the sense we mean today weren't really a thing they could plan for in 1811. But, as far as I know, the city's grid really hasn't been an impediment to the city's utility system, besides trash collection. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commissioners%27_Plan_of_1811 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commissioners%27_Plan_of_1811

majormajor 3y ago

Population density around "grid lots" isn't a thing holding NYC back from Tokyo's total population; the land area of Tokyo proper is nearly 3x that of NYC proper for about 1.5x the people. The surrounding area is denser in Tokyo, but the city proper is already denser in NYC (which makes sense if you've seen the building heights in Manhattan).

FooBarBizBazz 3y ago

Brooklyn (Williamsburg)? Jersey City? Hoboken? These have all gone from blue-collar to completely-unaffordable within the lifetime of GenX and elder Millennials. NYC does expand. Now -- funny thing: With the PATH, you can get into the financial district faster from Newark than you can from Brooklyn. So the obvious next thing to do is to gentrify Newark. That's been slow though -- money still remembers the 1967 riots.