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Other busses are used the whole day, which seems diffucult to do on batteries (stops too short to charge). School busses, however, are used twice per day, which

Other busses are used the whole day, which seems diffucult to do on batteries (stops too short to charge). School busses, however, are used twice per day, which seems perfect for battery powered busses. If any bus works on batteries, it's a school bus.

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> If any bus works on batteries, it's a school bus. That probably is true. On the other hand, school buses are underused, so I guess owners won’t want to spend much money buying new ones early. > Other busses are used the whole day, which seems difficult to do on batteries (stops too short to charge) They aren’t too short. Googling “automatic electric bus charging at stops” gets many different offerings for rapidly charging at every bus stop and/or at turnaround terminals (where drivers often have to take a break by law) Also many tenders for new city buses in the rich part of Western Europe have requirements that effectively say “buses must be electric” nowadays, and I haven’t heard of lots of buses running out of power there. Part of the reason for those requirements is the EU directive “on the promotion of clean road transport vehicles in support of low-emission mobility” (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:02009L0033-20190801 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:02...) It (roughly speaking) says 22.5% of new buses must be zero-emission in 2025. Some countries easily met that target, though, so that likely isn’t the only reason. https://think.ing.com/articles/all-aboard-europes-electric-bus-revolution-290921 https://think.ing.com/articles/all-aboard-europes-electric-b... says: “In 2016, the Netherlands adopted the ambitious target to fully decarbonise its public bus fleet of 5,500 buses by 2030, with 100% zero-emission new inflow from 2025 onwards. In 2020, over 80% of newly registered buses were already zero emission, resulting in a fleet share close to 25% in early 2021” and “Germany aims to have electrified half of its total public bus fleet in 2030 in its Klimaschutzprogramm.”

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> If any bus works on batteries, it's a school bus. That probably is true. On the other hand, school buses are underused, so I guess owners won’t want to spend much money buying new ones early. > Other busses are used the whole day, which seems difficult to do on batteries (stops too short to charge) They aren’t too short. Googling “automatic electric bus charging at stops” gets many different offerings for rapidly charging at every bus stop and/or at turnaround terminals (where drivers often have to take a break by law) Also many tenders for new city buses in the rich part of Western Europe have requirements that effectively say “buses must be electric” nowadays, and I haven’t heard of lots of buses running out of power there. Part of the reason for those requirements is the EU directive “on the promotion of clean road transport vehicles in support of low-emission mobility” (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:02009L0033-20190801 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:02...) It (roughly speaking) says 22.5% of new buses must be zero-emission in 2025. Some countries easily met that target, though, so that likely isn’t the only reason. https://think.ing.com/articles/all-aboard-europes-electric-bus-revolution-290921 https://think.ing.com/articles/all-aboard-europes-electric-b... says: “In 2016, the Netherlands adopted the ambitious target to fully decarbonise its public bus fleet of 5,500 buses by 2030, with 100% zero-emission new inflow from 2025 onwards. In 2020, over 80% of newly registered buses were already zero emission, resulting in a fleet share close to 25% in early 2021” and “Germany aims to have electrified half of its total public bus fleet in 2030 in its Klimaschutzprogramm.”