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> I think a good CoC should be specific enough that it is actively repulsive to some people. And frankly, the more people who are repulsed by it the better. I'
by WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
> I think a good CoC should be specific enough that it is actively repulsive to some people. And frankly, the more people who are repulsed by it the better.
I'd say that in this case, the best version is the one that names explicitly people who are allowed and others need not apply.
But then again... It's actually an interesting train of thought. How should I repulse, in one simple sentence, both right-wing and left-wing nutsoes? How can I make sure the result of this repellent is not an empty set?
But then again, maybe only the nuttiest ones should be repelled, and the rest will read the room...
- immibis 3y agoYou could try "Free speech, but don't be a dick". Let-wing nutsoes will be repelled because they think you're right wing because you said "free speech", and right-wing nutsoes will be banned because they want to be dicks.
- spencerflem 3y agoI don't think the contents of the CoC are as important as the content of the site. Left wing people dont hate free speech, they hate seeing posts by right wing people (often attacking them) and dont want to be in that space. And the same is true for right wing people, look at how censored Truth Social is. You want the vibes of the space to be comfortable for the people you want to attract. As for the CoC wording, hackernews's is pretty good for a well moderated high profile site with a specific vision: posts should be curious, don't be mean, etc.
- immibis 3y agoThe question was about repelling "left-wing nutsoes", not normal left-wing people.
- spencerflem 3y agoI stand by that nutsos of any denomination aren't likely to be reading your CoC closely, and that the main use of one is to make your moderation more justifiable.
- immibis 3y agoThat's true. I don't see a point in CoCs because they don't actually change anything about the moderation you were already going to do.
- spencerflem 3y agoHonest answer: moderation. If you think someone is a nutso, ban them. And people who are like them won't find many friends there anymore. Having an airtight CoC is important for big networks that need transparency but if its your personal space you don't need to worry too much And yea, the allow list method is pretty good depending on the vibe. I feel a lot more comfortable in my 10 person discord of people I know personally. If that's the energy youre going for it totally works
- segh 3y agoEnforce a no politics rule.
- spencerflem 3y agounless you like talking politics, it's your social media :p the nice part about being small is theres less obligation to be impartial
- WesolyKubeczek 3y agoI like a nuanced discussion of politics. I just don’t like a notion that there should be a simple solution to every complex problem.