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Call it Stockholm syndrome but IMO modern MacBooks have some of the nicest laptop keyboards around. And I'm the kind of guy who uses a custom mechanical keyboar

Call it Stockholm syndrome but IMO modern MacBooks have some of the nicest laptop keyboards around. And I'm the kind of guy who uses a custom mechanical keyboard at his desk and turns his nose up at Cherry MX switches.

baz00 3y ago
Pre-post edit: excuse the keyboard rant. They're not bad. Definitely better than the soggy ass Dell and Lenovo keyboards at least. But I would still rather have a proper keyboard with some travel. But the whole laptop experience is a compromise generally so I'm willing to live with it. My daily driver keyboard is an Apple Magic Keyboard on my Mac mini and that's fine as well. I only use it so I don't have switch back and forth between a different keyboard and the MBP when I need to. As for the Cherry MX, not a fan either. I tried a few over the years of different switch variants (at great cost) and they actually hurt you if you have to do some serious work on them after a while. When I say serious, a lot of my existence these days is hacking out large quantities of LaTeX and switching between that and paper. The MX boards are just too high, too noisy and too expensive. Got to say the best keyboard I've used in recent years though is a Cherry Stream TKL. That's actually surprisingly good and very cheap (£25). It'll annoy the purists here because it's a rubber dome SX switch.
- eunice 3y ago
  went from mx brown to topre and can never go back
- BSDobelix 3y ago
  You should never go into politics's, now you made two main-group's mad, the Thinkpad lover's AND the Cherry "lovers", you now have only one minor group left who is not salty and that is the Plan9-Front who exclusively works with a 3-buttom mouse and drawterm ;)
  - baz00 3y ago
    You're right. If I got into politics the world would be ash in 30 minutes.
Aardwolf 3y ago
What switches do you prefer instead? (I currently use Cherry MX browns, interested to learn what's better since I thought non-cherry switches were bootleggy)
- asystole 3y ago
  I go between different switches but the Kailh Box series is a really solid choice and they make some great tactile switches that are IMO much nicer than MX Browns.
eertami 3y ago
Eh, Cherry switches are great. I had lubed Holy Pandas and sold them to switch back to MX browns. Genuinely a much better switch for mixed usage scenarios. I can't help but be suspicious when people are against Cherry switches, because often it is just Reddit cult/meme nonsense rather than from actual usage. Honestly the Macbook keyboard for me is just as bad as every other laptop. Thinkpads or XPS are the exact same mediocre experience you get from the the MBP.
533474 3y ago
Fanboy syndrome :P

baz00 3y ago

Pre-post edit: excuse the keyboard rant. They're not bad. Definitely better than the soggy ass Dell and Lenovo keyboards at least. But I would still rather have a proper keyboard with some travel. But the whole laptop experience is a compromise generally so I'm willing to live with it. My daily driver keyboard is an Apple Magic Keyboard on my Mac mini and that's fine as well. I only use it so I don't have switch back and forth between a different keyboard and the MBP when I need to. As for the Cherry MX, not a fan either. I tried a few over the years of different switch variants (at great cost) and they actually hurt you if you have to do some serious work on them after a while. When I say serious, a lot of my existence these days is hacking out large quantities of LaTeX and switching between that and paper. The MX boards are just too high, too noisy and too expensive. Got to say the best keyboard I've used in recent years though is a Cherry Stream TKL. That's actually surprisingly good and very cheap (£25). It'll annoy the purists here because it's a rubber dome SX switch.

eunice 3y ago
went from mx brown to topre and can never go back
BSDobelix 3y ago
You should never go into politics's, now you made two main-group's mad, the Thinkpad lover's AND the Cherry "lovers", you now have only one minor group left who is not salty and that is the Plan9-Front who exclusively works with a 3-buttom mouse and drawterm ;)
- baz00 3y ago
  You're right. If I got into politics the world would be ash in 30 minutes.

Aardwolf 3y ago

What switches do you prefer instead? (I currently use Cherry MX browns, interested to learn what's better since I thought non-cherry switches were bootleggy)

asystole 3y ago
I go between different switches but the Kailh Box series is a really solid choice and they make some great tactile switches that are IMO much nicer than MX Browns.

eertami 3y ago

Eh, Cherry switches are great. I had lubed Holy Pandas and sold them to switch back to MX browns. Genuinely a much better switch for mixed usage scenarios. I can't help but be suspicious when people are against Cherry switches, because often it is just Reddit cult/meme nonsense rather than from actual usage. Honestly the Macbook keyboard for me is just as bad as every other laptop. Thinkpads or XPS are the exact same mediocre experience you get from the the MBP.

533474 3y ago

Fanboy syndrome :P