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Online exam revoked due to FaceTime Emojis (MacBook)

18 points by albert_e 3y ago

mock-possum 3y ago
What a ripoff. I really can’t believe these kinds of exams are taken seriously by anyone.
- adhesive_wombat 3y ago
  Leetcode is taken seriously too by some. There's a thick layer of Ark B types that think they're extremely useful, because when you just have a list tick boxes, you don't need to think about it and no one can blame you for following the process (the person with more ticks wins).
jokethrowaway 3y ago
Bad software is bad software. The comments are hilarious though, I had no idea anyone cared about AWS certifications that much to call them "Career Ending"
- Someone 3y ago
  I think it can really be. For many, an AWS certification isn’t something they get on top of a good university degree; it’s something they get on top of a basic education or on top of a degree of a university of very low status. Let say you’re poor in India, got through high school, but didn’t get stellar results. Now, you manage to get a job in a big city on the basis that you’ll have to get a certification within half a year or lose the job if you fail. So, you borrow money to move to a big city, then this happens. Given that there are many, many in India vying for such jobs and that you’re now in debt, you may never get another chance.
- albert_e 3y ago
  > Bad software is bad software. Are you referring to the OS feature of automatically inserting emojis into webcam? Then yes -- I agree. Even if it was an amazing and very useful feature (which I dont think it is) it should have been strictly opt-in. Not a "pre-checked" or heavily pushed feature that most users were lead to click agree-agree on when installing the update. > The comments are hilarious though, I had no idea anyone cared about AWS certifications that much to call them "Career Ending" I can imagine this being deeply disruptive to short-term career plans for many aspiring professionals in junior roles, with not a lot of financial independence and safety net. Especially in developing countires like India (which I can speak about) -- and I imagine even more so for lower income countries. These certification exams cost $150 to $300 -- not counting any other spend on training courses, AWS labs etc -- each of which must have been a significant financial decision for many candidates that are either at the beginning of their careers or trying to break into IT industry. At entry to medium levels of IT careers -- these are given enough importance in hiring. In some cases in order to keep an existing job, certifications may be a condition (for instance -- someone is on a PIP and getting a relevant cert was one criteria. Yes this happens.)
ericswpark 3y ago
This feature ("Reactions") should've been opt-in. But Apple knows best for their users :P
- StringyBob 3y ago
  Yes - extremely poorly thought out from Apple. Has caught out multiple people at my workplace. Feature is buried in the camera pipeline of MacOS, had assumed it was a bug in zoom that it could not be properly disabled - until same thing happened in a msteams call too, so realized it wasn't the zoom feature recognition triggering!
rcbdev 3y ago
It really goes to show that in DevOps and SRE (Site Reliability Engineering) - where companies arguably make the most money from vendor lock-in - pointless certs dominate. In traditional SWE (Software Engineering) you'd be hard-pressed to find a legitimate senior or hiring manager that is taking a Java certificate seriously at all. I am very grateful that SWE is untouched by this.

18 points by albert_e 3y ago

mock-possum 3y ago

What a ripoff. I really can’t believe these kinds of exams are taken seriously by anyone.

adhesive_wombat 3y ago
Leetcode is taken seriously too by some. There's a thick layer of Ark B types that think they're extremely useful, because when you just have a list tick boxes, you don't need to think about it and no one can blame you for following the process (the person with more ticks wins).

jokethrowaway 3y ago

Bad software is bad software. The comments are hilarious though, I had no idea anyone cared about AWS certifications that much to call them "Career Ending"

Someone 3y ago
I think it can really be. For many, an AWS certification isn’t something they get on top of a good university degree; it’s something they get on top of a basic education or on top of a degree of a university of very low status. Let say you’re poor in India, got through high school, but didn’t get stellar results. Now, you manage to get a job in a big city on the basis that you’ll have to get a certification within half a year or lose the job if you fail. So, you borrow money to move to a big city, then this happens. Given that there are many, many in India vying for such jobs and that you’re now in debt, you may never get another chance.
albert_e 3y ago
> Bad software is bad software. Are you referring to the OS feature of automatically inserting emojis into webcam? Then yes -- I agree. Even if it was an amazing and very useful feature (which I dont think it is) it should have been strictly opt-in. Not a "pre-checked" or heavily pushed feature that most users were lead to click agree-agree on when installing the update. > The comments are hilarious though, I had no idea anyone cared about AWS certifications that much to call them "Career Ending" I can imagine this being deeply disruptive to short-term career plans for many aspiring professionals in junior roles, with not a lot of financial independence and safety net. Especially in developing countires like India (which I can speak about) -- and I imagine even more so for lower income countries. These certification exams cost $150 to $300 -- not counting any other spend on training courses, AWS labs etc -- each of which must have been a significant financial decision for many candidates that are either at the beginning of their careers or trying to break into IT industry. At entry to medium levels of IT careers -- these are given enough importance in hiring. In some cases in order to keep an existing job, certifications may be a condition (for instance -- someone is on a PIP and getting a relevant cert was one criteria. Yes this happens.)

ericswpark 3y ago

This feature ("Reactions") should've been opt-in. But Apple knows best for their users :P

StringyBob 3y ago
Yes - extremely poorly thought out from Apple. Has caught out multiple people at my workplace. Feature is buried in the camera pipeline of MacOS, had assumed it was a bug in zoom that it could not be properly disabled - until same thing happened in a msteams call too, so realized it wasn't the zoom feature recognition triggering!

rcbdev 3y ago

It really goes to show that in DevOps and SRE (Site Reliability Engineering) - where companies arguably make the most money from vendor lock-in - pointless certs dominate. In traditional SWE (Software Engineering) you'd be hard-pressed to find a legitimate senior or hiring manager that is taking a Java certificate seriously at all. I am very grateful that SWE is untouched by this.