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I have a hard time believing it's so difficult for a search engine to distinguish between a credible, respected website that has been around a while with some g

I have a hard time believing it's so difficult for a search engine to distinguish between a credible, respected website that has been around a while with some generated garbage that exists to be a search result. We humans can tell them apart, so in principle, computers can too.

Nextgrid 3y ago
Yes, this should be table stakes for a classifier - a company with the resource of Google can definitely solve that problem if they weren't themselves in the business of spam (advertising) and benefited from spam sites (as they often include Google ads/analytics).
- navigate8310 3y ago
  Google is quite quick in plugging holes in AdSense but AdWords.
- ametrau 3y ago
  > table stakes Always “table stakes”. Do you think in buzzwords also? I’ve always wondered this. Or do you think normal words and then translate it into this bandwagoning / membership proving garbage ?
  - dang 3y ago
    Hey, please don't cross into personal attack on HN. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. Edit: unfortunately your account has been breaking the site guidelines in a lot of other places too—here are some recent examples: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38825624 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38825624 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38825543 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38825543 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38783196 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38783196 We eventually have to ban accounts that post like this, so if you'd please stop doing that, we'd appreciate it. On HN the idea is: if you have a substantive point, make it thoughtfully; if not, please don't comment until you do.
pixl97 3y ago
I guess this brings up the question of how good are humans at doing this across a wide number of domains on average? The other question I have is how long do these garbage results stay up for a particular query on average?

Nextgrid 3y ago

Yes, this should be table stakes for a classifier - a company with the resource of Google can definitely solve that problem if they weren't themselves in the business of spam (advertising) and benefited from spam sites (as they often include Google ads/analytics).

navigate8310 3y ago
Google is quite quick in plugging holes in AdSense but AdWords.
ametrau 3y ago
> table stakes Always “table stakes”. Do you think in buzzwords also? I’ve always wondered this. Or do you think normal words and then translate it into this bandwagoning / membership proving garbage ?
- dang 3y ago
  Hey, please don't cross into personal attack on HN. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. Edit: unfortunately your account has been breaking the site guidelines in a lot of other places too—here are some recent examples: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38825624 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38825624 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38825543 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38825543 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38783196 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38783196 We eventually have to ban accounts that post like this, so if you'd please stop doing that, we'd appreciate it. On HN the idea is: if you have a substantive point, make it thoughtfully; if not, please don't comment until you do.

pixl97 3y ago

I guess this brings up the question of how good are humans at doing this across a wide number of domains on average? The other question I have is how long do these garbage results stay up for a particular query on average?