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> Something I'm unsure about is what does and doesn't trigger wars. Probably more in the 'emotions' camp than in the 'concrete facts' camp, even if no one want
by davidw 3y ago
> Something I'm unsure about is what does and doesn't trigger wars.
Probably more in the 'emotions' camp than in the 'concrete facts' camp, even if no one wants to admit it.
- __jem 3y agoRight, because endless US involvement in ground wars in the middle east has always been firmly on the side of "concrete facts."
- skygazer 3y agoIn content and fact you seem to be in agreement with the post you're replying to, but in tone you act as though you're refuting them.
- wolverine876 3y agoMany US wars were triggered by dis/misinformation: The Gulf of Tonkin for Vietnam, and the fictitous nuclear weapons program in Iraq come to mind. For Iraq, the government made an argument something like, 'you can't wait for the mushroom cloud'.
- bawolff 3y agoI think there is a difference between how wars are "sold" to voters and why nations actually go to war.
- wolverine876 3y agoYes, good point. But let's not overestimate leaders' deep strategic thinking or rationality; they can be mislead and emotional too.
- pydry 3y agoLet's also not pretend that Iraq was about WMDs rather than empire. They knew it was a lie.
- s1artibartfast 3y agoWMDs would also be about threat to empire.
- c0nducktr 3y agoThe US War in Iraq was not due to misinformation. Misinformation may have sold it to the public, but to give the people responsible for that war a pass, as if they were just mislead, is .. well it's just covering for their actions.
- wolverine876 3y agoYes, agreed. Part of my point is that, public or private, it was not driven by facts.