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Where did I say I hold random Russian citizens guilty for the actions of their government? I certainly don't. The vast majority of Russian citizens are victims
by eigenket 3y ago
Where did I say I hold random Russian citizens guilty for the actions of their government?
I certainly don't. The vast majority of Russian citizens are victims of their shitty government, just like the rest of us who have been impacted by it.
In any case, let's get back to the point we were talking about: Russian influence on the brexit referendum, you still haven't offered any counterpoints relevant to anything I've said.
- thriftwy 3y agoMy argumentation is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and I've never seen any. It is unlikely that 150-pages journalistic bias piece will contain anything nearly sufficient. On the other hand, US&UK NGOs meddling just about anywhere is not extraordinary and there is plenty of evidence, including recently discovered navalnist, anti-war, pro-western troll farm.
- eigenket 3y agoOh, are you calling it a war now? I thought you'd all been instructed that it was a "special military operation" or some similar nonsense. Let's try to be as objective as we can here. I think the fact that Russia and Cambridge analytica tried to influence the referendum is fairly incontrovertible. There is plenty of evidence for that. Now the question is whether or not they failed. For some reason you have decided the report I mentioned is biased. Why do you think that, other than it disagrees with what you believe?
- thriftwy 3y agoRussians are way less instructed than an average HN woke-toke. I just don't see how Russian influence could have moved the needle in any measurable fashion without a large number of boots on the ground. The report can be factually correct and the whole thing still pathetic.