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NATO is an alliance of countries that feel they need protection. Why don't you question Russia's foreign policy with its neighbors? Why hasn't Russia establishe

NATO is an alliance of countries that feel they need protection. Why don't you question Russia's foreign policy with its neighbors? Why hasn't Russia established good relationships with those countries, instead of placing corrupt puppets as a way to control them? Anyway, sovereign countries, like Ukraine, are free to make their choices, if they want to join NATO, and if they have the requirements, they should be able to join - it isn't NATO enforcing themselves onto others, lie Russia as done for decades. > Ukraine is for russia the same as what cuba was for US... I really can't see that logic: when did the US invade Cuba and stated it was US land all along because ethnic Americans were being prosecuted by cubans?

ajsnigrutin 3y ago
So NATO bombing of yugoslavia was protection of nato countries? Oh no, wait, it was a direct agression by nato. ...because of fighting with a terrorist group. Where's the protection from the nato countries? > Why hasn't Russia established good relationships with those countries, instead of placing corrupt puppets as a way to control them? The puppets that won the elections and US had to organize a coup to remove? Victoria Nuland was literally giving away cookies there. Yes, cuba is free to make their choice to be friendly with the soviet union and station missles there. But this was enough for usa to plan a fals flag attack and start a war with cuba: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods Luckily back then, diplomacy prevailed, and there was no war there.. but it was close. The embargo is still in play though,... There should be a vote in the UN against the embargo or something... oh wait, there was: https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/11/1143112 https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/11/1143112 Just look at the results.
- libertine 3y ago
  > So NATO bombing of yugoslavia was protection of nato countries? Oh no, wait, it was a direct agression by nato. ...because of fighting with a terrorist group. NATO bombing Yugoslavia was because there was another genocide in the making (people seem to forget those, how they start and what it leads to). Guess who was against the intervention in the Security Council? Russia and China. > The puppets that won the elections and US had to organize a coup to remove? Victoria Nuland was literally giving away cookies there. Here comes the conspiracy theory, that a civil revolution after a president defraud their population with promises to try to join the EU, suddenly did a 180 turn in exchange for Russian cash - what a shock that people revolted. > Yes, cuba is free to make their choice to be friendly with the soviet union and station missles there. No one is placing nukes in Ukraine - yet apparently, they should now. Comparing Cuba in the 60's to Ukraine in 2023 is one of the most absurd pieces of Russian propaganda, only beaten by comparing Ukraine to Israel.
  - ajsnigrutin 3y ago
    There was a war against terrorists in kosovo. But because USA had interests there, they removed KLA from the terrorist list in 1998 and had nato, a supposedly defensive organization, attack another country. If nato cared about genocide and went on offense again, it'd be bombing israel right now, but noone cares about brown people. > Here comes the conspiracy theory, that a civil revolution after a president defraud their population with promises to try to join the EU, suddenly did a 180 turn in exchange for Russian cash - what a shock that people revolted. Yep, all grassroots movements, no external financing and help to opposition group, nope, Victoria Nuland was there just randomly giving out cookies to protesters. The same thing is happening in serbia right now, vucic won, due to many reasons, and protesters with maidan flags, paid by outsiders are parading down the streets of belgrade. But as with iran, we have to wait for 50-60 years for the documents to come out. > No one is placing nukes in Ukraine - yet apparently, they should now. Comparing Cuba in the 60's to Ukraine in 2023 is one of the most absurd pieces of Russian propaganda, only beaten by comparing Ukraine to Israel. Maybe not nukes yet, but weapons systems targeting russia are already placed all along the nato border towards russia. If nato built a base in ukraine, who know what they'd put there. If a bunch of nato countries didn't gang up and attack a random country every few years, there would maybe be a bit less of nato hate around the world. Also Israel is a lot more efficient at killing minorities in their country (depending on if you look at palestine as a part of isreal or a separate state). But otherwise, not too different, especially after ukraine cluster bombed a christmas market and an iceskating ring just now. The only difference is, that someone helped the minority in ukraine, and middle eastern countries are still a bit on the edge about helping palestine.. but considering how many countries got scared and bailed just due to houthi rockets, we're not far from another, much larger war there too, and US is already overextended, having to buy their own AD missles from japan, since they can't produce enough. I'm lucky to live in a small and unimportant part of EU, but when shit hits the fan, it will hurt in EU and US too.
    - libertine 3y ago
      > There was a war against terrorists in kosovo. But because USA had interests there, they removed KLA from the terrorist list in 1998 and had nato, a supposedly defensive organization, attack another country. If nato cared about genocide and went on offense again, it'd be bombing israel right now, but noone cares about brown people. Right because Israel has the same capacity Kosovo had... In case you forgot the last time before that event when there was an ongoing genocide in Europe, it led to WW2 - which didn't seem much of an interesting theme for Russia and China, two countries known for using genocide as a tool. > Yep, all grassroots movements, no external financing and help to opposition group, nope, Victoria Nuland was there just randomly giving out cookies to protesters. Ah yes, the ultimate russian propaganda piece - millions of Ukrainians revolted not because of a corrupt rug pull by their president who took money from the Kremlin, but from Victoria Nuland cookies. I can't make this up. This level of child like narrative is embarrassing. > Maybe not nukes yet, but weapons systems targeting russia are already placed all along the nato border towards russia. If nato built a base in ukraine, who know what they'd put there. If a bunch of nato countries didn't gang up and attack a random country every few years, there would maybe be a bit less of nato hate around the world. Then maybe Russia should stop invading sovereign countries? If the only way for Putin to remain in power is to keep neighboring countries controlled by puppets and lower living standards than Russia, all to disguise his own incompetence and corruption, then maybe - just maybe - sovereign countries wanting to join NATO isn't that bad of a thing. > Also Israel is a lot more efficient at killing minorities in their country Oh boy, look at Russia numbers, they do it by the millions. We're done here.

ajsnigrutin 3y ago

So NATO bombing of yugoslavia was protection of nato countries? Oh no, wait, it was a direct agression by nato. ...because of fighting with a terrorist group. Where's the protection from the nato countries? > Why hasn't Russia established good relationships with those countries, instead of placing corrupt puppets as a way to control them? The puppets that won the elections and US had to organize a coup to remove? Victoria Nuland was literally giving away cookies there. Yes, cuba is free to make their choice to be friendly with the soviet union and station missles there. But this was enough for usa to plan a fals flag attack and start a war with cuba: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods Luckily back then, diplomacy prevailed, and there was no war there.. but it was close. The embargo is still in play though,... There should be a vote in the UN against the embargo or something... oh wait, there was: https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/11/1143112 https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/11/1143112 Just look at the results.

libertine 3y ago
> So NATO bombing of yugoslavia was protection of nato countries? Oh no, wait, it was a direct agression by nato. ...because of fighting with a terrorist group. NATO bombing Yugoslavia was because there was another genocide in the making (people seem to forget those, how they start and what it leads to). Guess who was against the intervention in the Security Council? Russia and China. > The puppets that won the elections and US had to organize a coup to remove? Victoria Nuland was literally giving away cookies there. Here comes the conspiracy theory, that a civil revolution after a president defraud their population with promises to try to join the EU, suddenly did a 180 turn in exchange for Russian cash - what a shock that people revolted. > Yes, cuba is free to make their choice to be friendly with the soviet union and station missles there. No one is placing nukes in Ukraine - yet apparently, they should now. Comparing Cuba in the 60's to Ukraine in 2023 is one of the most absurd pieces of Russian propaganda, only beaten by comparing Ukraine to Israel.
- ajsnigrutin 3y ago
  There was a war against terrorists in kosovo. But because USA had interests there, they removed KLA from the terrorist list in 1998 and had nato, a supposedly defensive organization, attack another country. If nato cared about genocide and went on offense again, it'd be bombing israel right now, but noone cares about brown people. > Here comes the conspiracy theory, that a civil revolution after a president defraud their population with promises to try to join the EU, suddenly did a 180 turn in exchange for Russian cash - what a shock that people revolted. Yep, all grassroots movements, no external financing and help to opposition group, nope, Victoria Nuland was there just randomly giving out cookies to protesters. The same thing is happening in serbia right now, vucic won, due to many reasons, and protesters with maidan flags, paid by outsiders are parading down the streets of belgrade. But as with iran, we have to wait for 50-60 years for the documents to come out. > No one is placing nukes in Ukraine - yet apparently, they should now. Comparing Cuba in the 60's to Ukraine in 2023 is one of the most absurd pieces of Russian propaganda, only beaten by comparing Ukraine to Israel. Maybe not nukes yet, but weapons systems targeting russia are already placed all along the nato border towards russia. If nato built a base in ukraine, who know what they'd put there. If a bunch of nato countries didn't gang up and attack a random country every few years, there would maybe be a bit less of nato hate around the world. Also Israel is a lot more efficient at killing minorities in their country (depending on if you look at palestine as a part of isreal or a separate state). But otherwise, not too different, especially after ukraine cluster bombed a christmas market and an iceskating ring just now. The only difference is, that someone helped the minority in ukraine, and middle eastern countries are still a bit on the edge about helping palestine.. but considering how many countries got scared and bailed just due to houthi rockets, we're not far from another, much larger war there too, and US is already overextended, having to buy their own AD missles from japan, since they can't produce enough. I'm lucky to live in a small and unimportant part of EU, but when shit hits the fan, it will hurt in EU and US too.
  - libertine 3y ago
    > There was a war against terrorists in kosovo. But because USA had interests there, they removed KLA from the terrorist list in 1998 and had nato, a supposedly defensive organization, attack another country. If nato cared about genocide and went on offense again, it'd be bombing israel right now, but noone cares about brown people. Right because Israel has the same capacity Kosovo had... In case you forgot the last time before that event when there was an ongoing genocide in Europe, it led to WW2 - which didn't seem much of an interesting theme for Russia and China, two countries known for using genocide as a tool. > Yep, all grassroots movements, no external financing and help to opposition group, nope, Victoria Nuland was there just randomly giving out cookies to protesters. Ah yes, the ultimate russian propaganda piece - millions of Ukrainians revolted not because of a corrupt rug pull by their president who took money from the Kremlin, but from Victoria Nuland cookies. I can't make this up. This level of child like narrative is embarrassing. > Maybe not nukes yet, but weapons systems targeting russia are already placed all along the nato border towards russia. If nato built a base in ukraine, who know what they'd put there. If a bunch of nato countries didn't gang up and attack a random country every few years, there would maybe be a bit less of nato hate around the world. Then maybe Russia should stop invading sovereign countries? If the only way for Putin to remain in power is to keep neighboring countries controlled by puppets and lower living standards than Russia, all to disguise his own incompetence and corruption, then maybe - just maybe - sovereign countries wanting to join NATO isn't that bad of a thing. > Also Israel is a lot more efficient at killing minorities in their country Oh boy, look at Russia numbers, they do it by the millions. We're done here.