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Old story retold. The Claudian Roman government doubled down on the distinction between barbarian and Roman civilian and used shitty rhetorical tools to denigra
by secstate 3y ago
Old story retold. The Claudian Roman government doubled down on the distinction between barbarian and Roman civilian and used shitty rhetorical tools to denigrate the barbarians. This all despite the fact that most Romans farms and undesirable jobs were still being done by "barbarians." It's almost like looking into a mirror of history. The end for Rome was not far beyond Claudius.
- alephnerd 3y agoWhich Claudius? I never read Roman history beyond 6th and 7th grade history and AoE 1's campaigns, but I think Roman analogies would make it easier to drive my point to a couple people.
- pylua 3y agoI feel like the correct compromise for our conversation would be requiring strict clearance control for products in certain sectors. The reality is that if you work on a banking product for instance you might find an exploit you can use and keep secret and use to your countries benefit. That’s why these positions need clearance controls. Even a benign program like a text editor could have a back door installed to spy on the us. I am curious to hear your thoughts. Thanks.
- alephnerd 3y agoThere is no solution. US, Israeli, and Indian cyber-infrastructure is completely intertwined. There's no possible way to decouple without reversing 30 years of development. The only solution is to justify to Israel and India why they should continue to align to the US, instead of hacking it on their own. This justification comes from the carrot (FDI, IP Transfers) and the stick (bad press, cultivating alternative allies, tarriffs) The era of Hyperpower is over. Regional Powers have returned. The US Policy world has recognized this for a decade and is operating under those assumptions. The issue is the type of person who gets their news from CNN, Fox, Reddit, Zeihan, Telegram, etc isn't exactly the kind to read policy papers or watch C-SPAN > Even a benign program like a text editor could have a back door installed to spy on the us. It goes both ways. Meta is an American company with development done in the US. Everyone uses WhatsApp at the senior levels outside of North America. Everyone other than China uses Google as their primary search engine. Everyone uses MS or Apple as their primary OS
- pylua 3y agoI don’t agree with the premise that it is impossible to reverse . Frankly , security concerns should be treated as a priority one and heaven and earth should be moved to rectify the situation. It’s definitely not impossible just difficult. Frankly, we should be focused on solving hard problems that have high impact like this. I also think that in sourcing is an investment in the us citizen, something that all companies operating in the us should be obliged to do.
- secstate 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudius_Gothicus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudius_Gothicus who's reign was pretty late in the Empire phase, though good news for the U.S. it took another 150 years once they started crowning barbarians emperors before it all went to shit. Ironically, it was the emperors from barbarian territory who led the effort to keep second class and first class from mixing; which also rings a little true in our current U.S. political climate.
- alephnerd 3y agoI thought it was Gothicus!
- pylua 3y agoI would feel better if some of positions being outsourced required some sort of clearance . I really feel like certain development , like banking products / power grid / cyber security products for instance, should require a clearance to work on.