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I'm impressed that your account is a whole 5 minutes older than your post. I'd be even more impressed if Parse was open source instead of yet another walled-ga

by tl 14y ago

I'm impressed that your account is a whole 5 minutes older than your post. I'd be even more impressed if Parse was open source instead of yet another walled-garden PaaS hyped by shills.

markerdmann 14y ago
I've been following Parse for a while now, and I agree with technogarden. Their platform is impressive, and they're adding useful new features at a rapid rate. It would definitely be cool if they open-sourced the platform, but, in the meantime, you might be interested in this project: http://code.google.com/p/openmobster/wiki/learnmore http://code.google.com/p/openmobster/wiki/learnmore Personally, though, I don't mind paying for a service like Parse. If someone is willing to not only build the features I need but also to wear a pager and get up at 3am just to keep my users happy, I'm more than happy to give them some of my money.
- plasma 14y ago
  Same here, happy to give money to make a pain point go away so I can focus on the product itself. My only wish was that I could place an easy API layer between Parse and my app, because I would want more fine grained control over how data is mutated (even with ACLs, someone with write permission could mutate data and corrupt it if desired). There's a REST API, but I don't think I would want to use that as much.
  - adelevie 14y ago
    Check out Weary (https://github.com/mwunsch/weary/wiki https://github.com/mwunsch/weary/wiki). It's a framework for building REST clients in Ruby. Clients written with Weary are also Rack apps which can can be mounted in a Rails app, for example. Then you can add your own layer of authentication/whatever to the Rails app which will act as a proxy to your Parse db.
adelevie 14y ago
Not only is your comment incredibly rude to some really nice folks, but it's also wrong. Here's some data I exported from one of my Parse accounts: https://gist.github.com/2475461 https://gist.github.com/2475461.
- Gorbzel 14y ago
  It might be rude, but he's not wrong. Deploying APIs in the cloud for primary use in mobile apps is an oft-repeated/able task, and it doesn't seem like there's anywhere near enough value in the Parse API on top of what you get from the native SDKs and a solid combination of open source stack software supported by an enterprise track record more promising than a Series A round a few months ago. Also, as the comments here suggest, there are a lot of slight modifications to the default use case that reward having solidly built a stack not built on yet high-level PaaS abstraction. Sorry, but a JSON representation of your data is the low bar, not some instant proof that the product is magic.
  - benologist 14y ago
    Parse isn't a high level abstraction, they just like to make certain things more convenient, if you want you can just use them as a database with a rest api over it. In terms of value ... I'm really not sure how you lose - if your app is a flop you're going to coast along on the free plan, if it's a success you can focus on your app rather than your stack, and you can migrate away from them when you feel like it.
hobonumber1 14y ago
Not everything needs to be open-source. Its a good product and they deserve to charge for it.
- jmathai 14y ago
  Not everything that charges money needs to be close-source. I'm not advocating Parse open source anthing, it's entirely up to them but open source does not mean $0.

by tl 14y ago

I'm impressed that your account is a whole 5 minutes older than your post. I'd be even more impressed if Parse was open source instead of yet another walled-garden PaaS hyped by shills.

markerdmann 14y ago

I've been following Parse for a while now, and I agree with technogarden. Their platform is impressive, and they're adding useful new features at a rapid rate. It would definitely be cool if they open-sourced the platform, but, in the meantime, you might be interested in this project: http://code.google.com/p/openmobster/wiki/learnmore http://code.google.com/p/openmobster/wiki/learnmore Personally, though, I don't mind paying for a service like Parse. If someone is willing to not only build the features I need but also to wear a pager and get up at 3am just to keep my users happy, I'm more than happy to give them some of my money.

plasma 14y ago
Same here, happy to give money to make a pain point go away so I can focus on the product itself. My only wish was that I could place an easy API layer between Parse and my app, because I would want more fine grained control over how data is mutated (even with ACLs, someone with write permission could mutate data and corrupt it if desired). There's a REST API, but I don't think I would want to use that as much.
- adelevie 14y ago
  Check out Weary (https://github.com/mwunsch/weary/wiki https://github.com/mwunsch/weary/wiki). It's a framework for building REST clients in Ruby. Clients written with Weary are also Rack apps which can can be mounted in a Rails app, for example. Then you can add your own layer of authentication/whatever to the Rails app which will act as a proxy to your Parse db.

adelevie 14y ago

Not only is your comment incredibly rude to some really nice folks, but it's also wrong. Here's some data I exported from one of my Parse accounts: https://gist.github.com/2475461 https://gist.github.com/2475461.

Gorbzel 14y ago
It might be rude, but he's not wrong. Deploying APIs in the cloud for primary use in mobile apps is an oft-repeated/able task, and it doesn't seem like there's anywhere near enough value in the Parse API on top of what you get from the native SDKs and a solid combination of open source stack software supported by an enterprise track record more promising than a Series A round a few months ago. Also, as the comments here suggest, there are a lot of slight modifications to the default use case that reward having solidly built a stack not built on yet high-level PaaS abstraction. Sorry, but a JSON representation of your data is the low bar, not some instant proof that the product is magic.
- benologist 14y ago
  Parse isn't a high level abstraction, they just like to make certain things more convenient, if you want you can just use them as a database with a rest api over it. In terms of value ... I'm really not sure how you lose - if your app is a flop you're going to coast along on the free plan, if it's a success you can focus on your app rather than your stack, and you can migrate away from them when you feel like it.

hobonumber1 14y ago

Not everything needs to be open-source. Its a good product and they deserve to charge for it.

jmathai 14y ago
Not everything that charges money needs to be close-source. I'm not advocating Parse open source anthing, it's entirely up to them but open source does not mean $0.