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> "I’ve always wanted to remove the role [and the] need for professional people to prescribe difficult drugs to use Yikes. It seems like you would want a barri
by fxd123 3y ago
> "I’ve always wanted to remove the role [and the] need for professional people to prescribe difficult drugs to use
Yikes. It seems like you would want a barrier to entry when it comes to legal suicide...
- xenospn 3y agoAnd why is that?
- throwaway4aday 3y agoTo prevent rash decisions in times of crisis.
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- sho_hn 3y agoPresumably because the underlying cause of suicidal desires can be temporary, and people who end up not following through may later be glad they didn't.
- y8bj 3y agoPeople who do follow through won’t care anymore.
- akira2501 3y agoThey leave behind people who will.
- tester89 3y agoThe view that we owe our existence to other people is abhorrent. Besides, we don’t legislate against ghosting, which would have similar effects.
- akira2501 3y agoThat view exists, but that's not at all what I'm expressing. The idea in this thread is that people experiencing /temporary/ suicidal ideation and go through with it won't care afterwards and therefore it's not an actual problem. I'm pointing out the most obvious flaw with this conclusion.
- y8bj 3y agoIt’s not temporary if they follow through. Read some Camus and meditate on relativity’s reach; can’t ever know the abstract signals others feel. We’re not made of philosophy but mush and go propagating electricity. Is it temporary if they stick around or are they role-playing? You can’t ever actually know. Just argue rhetorical positions in symbolic logic. Not the same as being anyone else. There’s no “flaw” as there’s no “one true symbolic rhetorical argument” to rule them all. Suggesting there’s a flaw implies there is.
- akira2501 3y ago> Read some Camus and meditate on relativity’s reach Grow up. People dying has impacts on the world. Ignore them, decry the immorality of it all, or bury your head in Camus if you like.. it doesn't magically dispell any of it.
- theshrike79 3y agoThere are also people forcing other people to live in a state of undeath while hooked to machines because they "care" too much.
- rmbyrro 3y agoBecause there's no way back from a decision that you might have regreted the day after, if you were not able to materialize easily?
- prirun 3y agoI am all for requiring, say, 3 professional counseling sessions to discuss the reasons a person wants to end their life. But if after that, the person is still committed to ending their life, I don't believe anyone should be able to stop them. They can always do it with a knife or gun, without anyone's permission - it's just a question of messiness - so I don't think someone else's approval should be required.
- tomohawk 3y agoThe law doesn't allow the operation of a motor vehicle if you're drunk or intoxicated. Why would the law allow the use of this device in those circumstances. Without too much thinking, there are plenty of reasons there many be legal restriction on this. Keep in mind that alcohol is involved in 40% or more of suicides. People usually think that they are acting with a sound mind, and in their own interests. Except that they often are not. This is ok when the consequences are less grim than death or permanent disability. People get confused, depressed, angry, drunk, high, or even have a psychotic break.
- hypeatei 3y agoOperating car while drunk can physically maim someone or kill them. Committing suicide does not do that to someone else. I can acknowledge it may have an emotional effect on family/friends, but it isn't illegal to make someone sad or else breakups would be outlawed...
- salawat 3y agoDivorce is a legally gayed thing.
- ccakes 3y agoMost methods of legal suicide today involve a doctor prescribing a cocktail known to kill a person and in many cases, they’re also administering it. It’s uncomfortable for them to effectively murder someone, even knowing that the recipient wishes for this to happen. The pod here doesn’t need to mean that any psychiatric assessments are foregone, it just takes the doctors finger off the trigger (which is a good thing)
- Pxtl 3y agoIirc even Kevorkian would have the patient execute the final button-press. But either way, I think everybody overestimates the cosmic importance of death to people whose careers are waist deep in it.