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> Heck I don't see them admitting Turkey Should they? Why? Should the U.S create a union with Mexico?

thriftwy 3y ago
They (EU countries) allowed Turkey to court them for a long time and get expensive treats then bailed out of it by ghosting Turkey. Do they have to admit Turkey? Hell no. Is it a sign of a good personality? Also no.
- weatherlite 3y ago
  There's zero political will to admit Turkey, that's the reality. The biggest hurdle is values, culture and democratic rule. Turkey's democracy is retreating and instead you get something like a dictatorship with a bit of Islamic chauvinism thrown in. If there were ever serious considerations about Turkey (I kinda doubt it) I'm positive it was before Erdogan's current rule. And yeah, let's not pretend that the religion issue doesn't play any part - of course it does. The EU wants to remain secular Christian. Ghosting, good personality, nobody cares. The EU isn't going to commit political suicide because of optics.
TheCleric 3y ago
It’s not the same, but we have had EU like agreements such as NAFTA.
- Whoppertime 3y ago
  NAFTA is designed to remove barriers to trade EU is designed to create common rules or quality standards which if you fail to pass you cannot trade. AKA Trade barriers!
  - TheCleric 3y ago
    I wouldn’t call common rules or quality “trade barriers”. That’s just regulation which you could have even within a country.
faeriechangling 3y ago
> Should the U.S create a union with Mexico? Yes and they sort of already have.
- weatherlite 3y ago
  What do you mean "sort of" have ? They don't. There's no currency union and no free movement union like the EU, it's not the same thing at all. Mexicans who want to go to the U.S basically trespass illegally and try to stay in all kinds of ways (an issue that is becoming yet again an election topic). Germans who want to move to France simply move to France.
MrMan 3y ago
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tycho-newman 3y ago
Yes. We should do all we can to make sure goods and labor can flow. National boundaries make it easier to export your capital than to export your skill set.

They (EU countries) allowed Turkey to court them for a long time and get expensive treats then bailed out of it by ghosting Turkey. Do they have to admit Turkey? Hell no. Is it a sign of a good personality? Also no.

weatherlite 3y ago
There's zero political will to admit Turkey, that's the reality. The biggest hurdle is values, culture and democratic rule. Turkey's democracy is retreating and instead you get something like a dictatorship with a bit of Islamic chauvinism thrown in. If there were ever serious considerations about Turkey (I kinda doubt it) I'm positive it was before Erdogan's current rule. And yeah, let's not pretend that the religion issue doesn't play any part - of course it does. The EU wants to remain secular Christian. Ghosting, good personality, nobody cares. The EU isn't going to commit political suicide because of optics.

TheCleric 3y ago

It’s not the same, but we have had EU like agreements such as NAFTA.

Whoppertime 3y ago
NAFTA is designed to remove barriers to trade EU is designed to create common rules or quality standards which if you fail to pass you cannot trade. AKA Trade barriers!
- TheCleric 3y ago
  I wouldn’t call common rules or quality “trade barriers”. That’s just regulation which you could have even within a country.

faeriechangling 3y ago

> Should the U.S create a union with Mexico? Yes and they sort of already have.

weatherlite 3y ago
What do you mean "sort of" have ? They don't. There's no currency union and no free movement union like the EU, it's not the same thing at all. Mexicans who want to go to the U.S basically trespass illegally and try to stay in all kinds of ways (an issue that is becoming yet again an election topic). Germans who want to move to France simply move to France.

MrMan 3y ago

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tycho-newman 3y ago

Yes. We should do all we can to make sure goods and labor can flow. National boundaries make it easier to export your capital than to export your skill set.