I agree. The goal of these efforts seems to be to make r less idiomatic, more “tidy”. They do this by introducing new idioms. Granted they are idioms that if e

I agree. The goal of these efforts seems to be to make r less idiomatic, more “tidy”. They do this by introducing new idioms. Granted they are idioms that if every r user would adopt 100% and all older code were rewritten 100% would in fact make the language more tidy. But that will never happen. So it ultimately is counterproductive imo. If I want to write concise shell style pipelines for data analysis I could use awk. If I wanted readability I could use python. Don’t try to cram all of those things into Posit/r.