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Parroting opposition and right wing German Angst scenarios won't bring nuclear back. Its capacity has been replaced years ago. The "deindustrialization"-meme ha

Parroting opposition and right wing German Angst scenarios won't bring nuclear back. Its capacity has been replaced years ago. The "deindustrialization"-meme has been created when BASF started crying for subsidies because they didn't bother to diversify and relied heavily on Russian gas. No nuclear reactor will ever be able to fix that. Despite all that, Germany came out pretty good and no fearmongering will create any of those scenarios: https://www.br.de/nachrichten/wirtschaft/deindustrialisierung-deutschland-standort-wie-schlimm-ist-es,Tlmcfpy https://www.br.de/nachrichten/wirtschaft/deindustrialisierun... https://www.fr.de/meinung/deutschland-wirtschaft-konkunktur-krise-energie-kosten-zukunft-herausforderungen-92435623.html https://www.fr.de/meinung/deutschland-wirtschaft-konkunktur-...

pfdietz 3y ago
Deindustrialization is not a complaint about nuclear, it's a complaint about not being able to continue to use fossil fuels. It's a rejection of climate change itself, and you see this stacked with climate change denial. It's true that Germany is not in a good place to compete in a post-fossil fuel world. Renewable energy is going to be more expensive in Europe than in, say, India. But nuclear can't help without short of near miraculous cost reductions.
mpweiher 3y ago
On cue, the "it's all right wing propaganda" dodge. Bloomberg is not part of the German "right wing", and also not known for disseminating propaganda. Furthermore, the "right" is just as responsible for the mess as the "left". The current applicable laws were passed during a grand-coalition under Merkel. This is not a party-political issue, but a German issue. And Pro Tip: if you can't actually counter the facts, trying to denounce is not helpful. Because, as you can't counter the facts, you are admitting that "the right wing" actually has the facts correct. From the piece you cited as a counter: "Einige Industriebetriebe denken mangels Billig-Gas darüber nach, ihre Werke ins Ausland zu verlagern, zumal der Strom hierzulande auch nicht günstig ist. Es geht um energieintensive Branchen wie Chemie, Papier, Glas oder Baustoffe." Hmm...companies that need energy are thinking of moving their production elsewhere, because electricity is also not cheap in Germany. Not sure how that makes your point that renewables are "cheaper", when German electricity is more expensive than in other countries. Which it is.

pfdietz 3y ago

Deindustrialization is not a complaint about nuclear, it's a complaint about not being able to continue to use fossil fuels. It's a rejection of climate change itself, and you see this stacked with climate change denial. It's true that Germany is not in a good place to compete in a post-fossil fuel world. Renewable energy is going to be more expensive in Europe than in, say, India. But nuclear can't help without short of near miraculous cost reductions.

mpweiher 3y ago

On cue, the "it's all right wing propaganda" dodge. Bloomberg is not part of the German "right wing", and also not known for disseminating propaganda. Furthermore, the "right" is just as responsible for the mess as the "left". The current applicable laws were passed during a grand-coalition under Merkel. This is not a party-political issue, but a German issue. And Pro Tip: if you can't actually counter the facts, trying to denounce is not helpful. Because, as you can't counter the facts, you are admitting that "the right wing" actually has the facts correct. From the piece you cited as a counter: "Einige Industriebetriebe denken mangels Billig-Gas darüber nach, ihre Werke ins Ausland zu verlagern, zumal der Strom hierzulande auch nicht günstig ist. Es geht um energieintensive Branchen wie Chemie, Papier, Glas oder Baustoffe." Hmm...companies that need energy are thinking of moving their production elsewhere, because electricity is also not cheap in Germany. Not sure how that makes your point that renewables are "cheaper", when German electricity is more expensive than in other countries. Which it is.