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Daihatsu is the market leader for kei car sales in Japan (where I live), with 560,000 cars sold in 2022. The model that I ordered is frequently the top-selling

Daihatsu is the market leader for kei car sales in Japan (where I live), with 560,000 cars sold in 2022. The model that I ordered is frequently the top-selling car model in the country in a given month. They are involved in accidents all the time. If there were issues with e.g. the airbag failing to deploy properly in real-world crashes (one of the areas where they cheated), I believe that would have surfaced by now.

PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
This is one of those casers where statistics aren't your friend. The statistics don't matter if your child dies because your vehicle is one of those that wouldn't have passed the safety tests. If they're fudging to pass safety tests, then there's most definitely people whose lives have been affected by it.
- swores 3y ago
  Not necessarily. I'm capable of cooking a meal, but I've never worked in a restaurant nor taken any food health and safety courses or anything. If tomorrow I started selling my cooking while displaying a fake certificate about my food safety qualifications it wouldn't automatically mean that anyone who eats my cooking will be hurt, it just means I took the lazy way (which could cause hurt, if by not knowing some food safety info I fuck up somehow, but it doesn't automatically mean the food I make must be unhealthy).
  - peddling-brink 3y ago
    But if you serve enough food to enough people, you’ll probably get bit by one of those “this rule is written with blood” fun little gotchas and kill someone. Will you properly handle celiac or severe allergies?
    - PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
      yep, and then it goes back to what I said originally. the chances being statistically low don't help the person who was hospitalized due to a peanut allergy.
    - pests 3y ago
      But any place can get bitten by one of those gotchas. In the example, maybe they are a perfectly safe cook by instincts without formal certification. Then nothing would ever be detected, or it would be on par with those who did pass.
  - playingalong 3y ago
    But there is a reason they cheated. And I guess that wasn't for the lolz or extra adrenaline of some VPs.
- User23 3y ago
  It depends on the variance of their production line. Indeed if the variance is low enough safety testing is a waste of time and money. Just test a handful of random cars off the line and call it good. Of course that sounds shocking, but it is true.

PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago

This is one of those casers where statistics aren't your friend. The statistics don't matter if your child dies because your vehicle is one of those that wouldn't have passed the safety tests. If they're fudging to pass safety tests, then there's most definitely people whose lives have been affected by it.

swores 3y ago
Not necessarily. I'm capable of cooking a meal, but I've never worked in a restaurant nor taken any food health and safety courses or anything. If tomorrow I started selling my cooking while displaying a fake certificate about my food safety qualifications it wouldn't automatically mean that anyone who eats my cooking will be hurt, it just means I took the lazy way (which could cause hurt, if by not knowing some food safety info I fuck up somehow, but it doesn't automatically mean the food I make must be unhealthy).
- peddling-brink 3y ago
  But if you serve enough food to enough people, you’ll probably get bit by one of those “this rule is written with blood” fun little gotchas and kill someone. Will you properly handle celiac or severe allergies?
  - PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
    yep, and then it goes back to what I said originally. the chances being statistically low don't help the person who was hospitalized due to a peanut allergy.
  - pests 3y ago
    But any place can get bitten by one of those gotchas. In the example, maybe they are a perfectly safe cook by instincts without formal certification. Then nothing would ever be detected, or it would be on par with those who did pass.
- playingalong 3y ago
  But there is a reason they cheated. And I guess that wasn't for the lolz or extra adrenaline of some VPs.
User23 3y ago
It depends on the variance of their production line. Indeed if the variance is low enough safety testing is a waste of time and money. Just test a handful of random cars off the line and call it good. Of course that sounds shocking, but it is true.