The government of North & South Korea that I'm speaking of was Japan. The government of North & South Vietnam that I'm speaking of was France. Acknowledged on

The government of North & South Korea that I'm speaking of was Japan. The government of North & South Vietnam that I'm speaking of was France. Acknowledged on the undercount of U.S. casualties in Iraq. It doesn't change my conclusion, though. There's a sibling comment by delecti that's making the point that I'm driving at: what is the goal of war? Is it regime change? Is it to sell arms? Is it to kill people? If it's regime change, war in general is a remarkably ineffective way of doing that - it's pretty rare that the victorious powers get the government they actually want, otherwise we would never have had to fight WW2. If it's killing people or feeding the military-industrial complex, the U.S. was pretty good at that in all the wars listed. Incidentally, Vietnam is currently one of the most capitalist countries on Earth. So politically, the communists were defeated. All we had to do was let them govern the country for 15 years and everybody realized they didn't want communism.