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That someone is even pointing this out should give most people in the US a cause for concern. Sadly most people in the US have no idea what real cheese or choco

by Djle 3y ago

That someone is even pointing this out should give most people in the US a cause for concern. Sadly most people in the US have no idea what real cheese or chocolate actually tastes like.

Kon-Peki 3y ago
> Sadly most people in the US have no idea what real cheese... Oh? Interesting. > An Italian academic has caused more than a stir after saying the recipe for carbonara is American and the only place in the world to find bona fide parmesan cheese nowadays is Wisconsin. > Alberto Grandi, a professor of food history at the University of Parma, made the remarks in an interview with the Financial Times. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/27/italian-academic-cooks-up-controversy-with-claim-carbonara-is-us-dish https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/27/italian-academ...
- keep_reading 3y ago
  Babcock Hall at UW is also like the world leading expert institution on dairy and cheese, too. (Try their ice cream, it's literal perfection from the ingredients to exact temperatures required to get the precise consistency)
- Tainnor 3y ago
  What Grandi actually wrote was that Parmesan Cheese, which was imported into the US by Italians, continued to evolve in Italy but not in the US. I have no way of verifying whether this is true but it wouldn't be terribly surprising if it was, and in any way, this doesn't imply any value judgement whatsoever. Of course, the media are more interested in controversy, so they turn that into "bona fide parmesan cheese only exists in Wisconsin".
amanaplanacanal 3y ago
I dunno. Did you take a poll or something? There are tons of small local creameries and chocolatiers around.
- Djle 3y ago
  If there are so many great local creameries around why then do you have Kraft and Mars products dominating most of the US stores? Oh I can answer that, it's because the US is a corporatocracy that only cares about profits.

by Djle 3y ago

That someone is even pointing this out should give most people in the US a cause for concern. Sadly most people in the US have no idea what real cheese or chocolate actually tastes like.

Kon-Peki 3y ago

> Sadly most people in the US have no idea what real cheese... Oh? Interesting. > An Italian academic has caused more than a stir after saying the recipe for carbonara is American and the only place in the world to find bona fide parmesan cheese nowadays is Wisconsin. > Alberto Grandi, a professor of food history at the University of Parma, made the remarks in an interview with the Financial Times. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/27/italian-academic-cooks-up-controversy-with-claim-carbonara-is-us-dish https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/27/italian-academ...

keep_reading 3y ago
Babcock Hall at UW is also like the world leading expert institution on dairy and cheese, too. (Try their ice cream, it's literal perfection from the ingredients to exact temperatures required to get the precise consistency)
Tainnor 3y ago
What Grandi actually wrote was that Parmesan Cheese, which was imported into the US by Italians, continued to evolve in Italy but not in the US. I have no way of verifying whether this is true but it wouldn't be terribly surprising if it was, and in any way, this doesn't imply any value judgement whatsoever. Of course, the media are more interested in controversy, so they turn that into "bona fide parmesan cheese only exists in Wisconsin".

amanaplanacanal 3y ago

I dunno. Did you take a poll or something? There are tons of small local creameries and chocolatiers around.

Djle 3y ago
If there are so many great local creameries around why then do you have Kraft and Mars products dominating most of the US stores? Oh I can answer that, it's because the US is a corporatocracy that only cares about profits.