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Apple Silicon devices can get the same performance as a desktop in a laptop size. The only reason to get a desktop is if you need the Ultra chip. And, the lapt

Apple Silicon devices can get the same performance as a desktop in a laptop size. The only reason to get a desktop is if you need the Ultra chip. And, the laptop gives you extra freedom for very, very little sacrifice (at least for Apple Silicon devices). I don't see any way you can argue for a desktop.

mgaunard 3y ago
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- Aurornis 3y ago
  > That is simply impossible. You cannot fit multiple 16x PCI-Express cards in a laptop chassis What does this have to do with compiling code? Obviously, if someone needs x16 PCIe cards they aren’t in the market for a laptop anyway. The only people comparing laptop versus desktop are those for whom both platforms can actually do what they need.
  - Jtsummers 3y ago
    > What does this have to do with compiling code? Nothing. GP is making an assumption that all people need the same kind of hardware for the same kind of work as they do. None of my work touches on ML or heavy data processing (in the numeric sense), so hardware like that is useless to me and my coworkers. A beefier workstation is still useful (more cores, more RAM), but recent-ish laptops (post 2020 definitely, tail-end of the 2010s is still fine) provide more than enough horsepower.
- endless1234 3y ago
  Perhaps many people building code do not need multiple 16x PCI-Express cards in their day to day workflow, but like being able to move around with their laptop?
  - serf 3y ago
    Yeah , perhaps -- but >Apple Silicon devices can get the same performance as a desktop in a laptop size. is still unequivocally wrong, bordering on belligerent marketing misinformation.
    - endless1234 3y ago
      For lots of workloads it is basically true, though. Not something exclusive to Apple laptops of course, others have also been capable programming workhorses for quite some years. It's just weird to say that no compiling should be done on a laptop - that might've been true 10 years ago.
- baq 3y ago
  Not everyone needs multiple 4090s to do their work. If you do, your options are limited.
  - duskwuff 3y ago
    And even if you do, you still might be better off running the GPU-bound tasks somewhere else and using a laptop to interact with them remotely.
baq 3y ago
You're slightly wrong. The performance is better than all but the super expensive performance halo parts... sometimes. Sometimes it's just better full stop. As someone who despises macOS: get the mac.
Unfrozen0688 3y ago
Not possible. Sustained performance will not be the same. Desktop will be vastly better.
- luuurker 3y ago
  I have the first generation of the M1 (M1 Max) and this is the first Apple laptop I own that doesn't seem to hit any thermal or power limit. I do use an app to spin the fans faster when doing something like encoding a blu-ray movie with HandBrake, but it keeps going for hours without any noticeable drop in performance. If you look at stress tests from a M1 on a Macbook Pro and a M1 on a Mac desktop, performance is similar. There might be a difference on sustained performance on the M1 Air, but that's because it doesn't have any fans.

mgaunard 3y ago

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Aurornis 3y ago
> That is simply impossible. You cannot fit multiple 16x PCI-Express cards in a laptop chassis What does this have to do with compiling code? Obviously, if someone needs x16 PCIe cards they aren’t in the market for a laptop anyway. The only people comparing laptop versus desktop are those for whom both platforms can actually do what they need.
- Jtsummers 3y ago
  > What does this have to do with compiling code? Nothing. GP is making an assumption that all people need the same kind of hardware for the same kind of work as they do. None of my work touches on ML or heavy data processing (in the numeric sense), so hardware like that is useless to me and my coworkers. A beefier workstation is still useful (more cores, more RAM), but recent-ish laptops (post 2020 definitely, tail-end of the 2010s is still fine) provide more than enough horsepower.
endless1234 3y ago
Perhaps many people building code do not need multiple 16x PCI-Express cards in their day to day workflow, but like being able to move around with their laptop?
- serf 3y ago
  Yeah , perhaps -- but >Apple Silicon devices can get the same performance as a desktop in a laptop size. is still unequivocally wrong, bordering on belligerent marketing misinformation.
  - endless1234 3y ago
    For lots of workloads it is basically true, though. Not something exclusive to Apple laptops of course, others have also been capable programming workhorses for quite some years. It's just weird to say that no compiling should be done on a laptop - that might've been true 10 years ago.
baq 3y ago
Not everyone needs multiple 4090s to do their work. If you do, your options are limited.
- duskwuff 3y ago
  And even if you do, you still might be better off running the GPU-bound tasks somewhere else and using a laptop to interact with them remotely.

baq 3y ago

You're slightly wrong. The performance is better than all but the super expensive performance halo parts... sometimes. Sometimes it's just better full stop. As someone who despises macOS: get the mac.

Unfrozen0688 3y ago

Not possible. Sustained performance will not be the same. Desktop will be vastly better.

luuurker 3y ago
I have the first generation of the M1 (M1 Max) and this is the first Apple laptop I own that doesn't seem to hit any thermal or power limit. I do use an app to spin the fans faster when doing something like encoding a blu-ray movie with HandBrake, but it keeps going for hours without any noticeable drop in performance. If you look at stress tests from a M1 on a Macbook Pro and a M1 on a Mac desktop, performance is similar. There might be a difference on sustained performance on the M1 Air, but that's because it doesn't have any fans.