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They also just had a real safety recall requiring manual inspection of over a million vehicles. This, along with their resistance to EVs is going to bite them.

b112 3y ago
Resistance to EVs?! They are pioneers!
- antiframe 3y ago
  Pioneers yet I still can't buy a Toyota EV.
  - robin_reala 3y ago
    You can buy a bZ4X. I’m not sure why you’d want to, but you can. https://www.toyota.com/bz4x/ https://www.toyota.com/bz4x/
    - antiframe 3y ago
      Oh that fair. I didn't realize they made one now. When I last looked they just had hybrids. I was looking for a car not truck though, so I may have glossed over it then too.
  - kwhitefoot 3y ago
    Why not? They are for sale in Norway: https://www.toyota.no/nybil/bz4x https://www.toyota.no/nybil/bz4x Are they not sold where you are?
    - b112 3y ago
      There are long wait lists for some EVs these days, certain models, in some countries. I know of people who had to wait more than a year.
      - twisteriffic 3y ago
        Where I am the waiting list for a Sienna is so long that they aren't taking names any more. It's over 3 years.
- grecy 3y ago
  https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/26/22594235/toyota-lobbying-dc-ev-congress-biden-donation https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/26/22594235/toyota-lobbying-...
  - b112 3y ago
    This 2 1/2 year old article has a strange title, compared to content. Apparently Toyota was lobbying for hybrids and h2(which are 100% electric) to be included in incentives. That's hardly anti-electric, and there are many, many people that need more range. Hybrids and H2 are answers to that. An example? Most days a hybrid would get me around just fine, using only electric. Other times I have to drive well beyond electric range, and sometimes for days. It doesn't matter what "but, you could.." statements someone makes, that's what I need. Hands down. And Toyota provides all options. This is a good thing. And driving on electric is a win, hybrid or not. And so this Verge article is quite odd.

b112 3y ago

Resistance to EVs?! They are pioneers!

antiframe 3y ago
Pioneers yet I still can't buy a Toyota EV.
- robin_reala 3y ago
  You can buy a bZ4X. I’m not sure why you’d want to, but you can. https://www.toyota.com/bz4x/ https://www.toyota.com/bz4x/
  - antiframe 3y ago
    Oh that fair. I didn't realize they made one now. When I last looked they just had hybrids. I was looking for a car not truck though, so I may have glossed over it then too.
- kwhitefoot 3y ago
  Why not? They are for sale in Norway: https://www.toyota.no/nybil/bz4x https://www.toyota.no/nybil/bz4x Are they not sold where you are?
  - b112 3y ago
    There are long wait lists for some EVs these days, certain models, in some countries. I know of people who had to wait more than a year.
    - twisteriffic 3y ago
      Where I am the waiting list for a Sienna is so long that they aren't taking names any more. It's over 3 years.
grecy 3y ago
https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/26/22594235/toyota-lobbying-dc-ev-congress-biden-donation https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/26/22594235/toyota-lobbying-...
- b112 3y ago
  This 2 1/2 year old article has a strange title, compared to content. Apparently Toyota was lobbying for hybrids and h2(which are 100% electric) to be included in incentives. That's hardly anti-electric, and there are many, many people that need more range. Hybrids and H2 are answers to that. An example? Most days a hybrid would get me around just fine, using only electric. Other times I have to drive well beyond electric range, and sometimes for days. It doesn't matter what "but, you could.." statements someone makes, that's what I need. Hands down. And Toyota provides all options. This is a good thing. And driving on electric is a win, hybrid or not. And so this Verge article is quite odd.