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It's still above 2019 levels, looks like it just dropped from the pandemic spike. Autotheft and carjackings are on the rise, its pretty terrible in my area with

It's still above 2019 levels, looks like it just dropped from the pandemic spike. Autotheft and carjackings are on the rise, its pretty terrible in my area with boys and girl as young as 12 and 13 stealing cars for joyrides because they are being let go after being caught, resulting in fatalities in some cases. This was my reply with examples and sources to someone saying crimes weren't for fun. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38704726 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38704726

bozhark 3y ago
TikTok + lazy manufacturers. KIA & Hundai knew about the issue well in advance and made the business decision not to react and fix it. Easiest car to steal in a few generations. People that is
- joemazerino 3y ago
  It isn't the car manufacturers job to stop kids from being criminals. TikTok you are right on the money though. Greatest CCP psyweapon ever invented.
  - mlyle 3y ago
    When I buy a car, I'd like to see the manufacturer of the car make it not absolutely trivial to steal-- so it does make it kind of their job. ;) Making a car comically easy to steal will have an impact on car theft rates. It's obviously not the only factor.
  - ceejayoz 3y ago
    Kia and Hyundai were negligent in skipping an immobilizer; that negligence led to those types of cars being targeted. https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/hyundai-kia-campaign-prevent-vehicle-theft https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/hyundai-kia-campaign-pr...
  - thereddaikon 3y ago
    Its not their job to prevent crime. But it is their job to take reasonable steps to secure their products. What they did is akin to Google not supporting HTTPS for their services and then blaming the users for their data being stolen. People have a reasonable expectation that cars come with immobilizers because its been an industry standard for decades. Its also not something you can easily check and verify yourself.

bozhark 3y ago

TikTok + lazy manufacturers. KIA & Hundai knew about the issue well in advance and made the business decision not to react and fix it. Easiest car to steal in a few generations. People that is

joemazerino 3y ago
It isn't the car manufacturers job to stop kids from being criminals. TikTok you are right on the money though. Greatest CCP psyweapon ever invented.
- mlyle 3y ago
  When I buy a car, I'd like to see the manufacturer of the car make it not absolutely trivial to steal-- so it does make it kind of their job. ;) Making a car comically easy to steal will have an impact on car theft rates. It's obviously not the only factor.
- ceejayoz 3y ago
  Kia and Hyundai were negligent in skipping an immobilizer; that negligence led to those types of cars being targeted. https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/hyundai-kia-campaign-prevent-vehicle-theft https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/hyundai-kia-campaign-pr...
- thereddaikon 3y ago
  Its not their job to prevent crime. But it is their job to take reasonable steps to secure their products. What they did is akin to Google not supporting HTTPS for their services and then blaming the users for their data being stolen. People have a reasonable expectation that cars come with immobilizers because its been an industry standard for decades. Its also not something you can easily check and verify yourself.