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Isn't cheaper labor the main reason for migrant workers? Are you also sure that some of those child laborers are not eager to work? For some of the older ones

Isn't cheaper labor the main reason for migrant workers? Are you also sure that some of those child laborers are not eager to work? For some of the older ones going through the hassle of migration only to depend on state handouts may not be good enough and the probably need to send some earnings to their families.

kelseyfrog 3y ago
> Are you also sure that some of those child laborers are not eager to work? The children yearn for the mines
- gnicholas 3y ago
  Are you comparing a skittles factory to an underground mine?
  - ben0x539 3y ago
    No, they're mocking the notion that children actually want to be economically exploited. The specific phrase has some history in related online discourse.
  - kdr77 3y ago
    Working in a factory is incredibly dangerous work and many children get permanently disabled or are killed. Here are more articles in this series: 1) https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/18/magazine/child-labor-dangerous-jobs.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/18/magazine/child-labor-dang... 2) https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/14/us/roofing-children-immigrants.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/14/us/roofing-ch...
    - gnicholas 3y ago
      No doubt it can be dangerous. But invoking “mines” is unnecessarily inflammatory.
      - kelseyfrog 3y ago
        This is an incredibly common phrase and you can view this as a learning opportunity. If its use is causing emotions in you, then what a good starting point in a journey of self discovery? Why do you think it makes you feel so inflamed?
        gnicholas 3y ago
        Did you see emotion in my question, or in my use of the word "inflammatory"? If so, perhaps you should determine what is causing you to project emotion in this way.
        kelseyfrog 3y ago
        Inflammatory means it stirs emotions up in people. I'm glad you're aware of your emotions, but I'm curious, why did it do that for you?
        gnicholas 3y ago
        What dictionary are you citing? My dictionary says: arousing or intended to arouse angry or violent feelings. But you didn't answer my question, so I'll pass on answering yours (especially because it misstates what I said). Good day, strange stranger!
        kelseyfrog 3y ago
        So either it stirred within you emotions, or you're discrediting it because you're assuming that it does in others. I'm curious which of those it is. Is it the latter? Why would you care so much what others feel? What sort of violence would it imply? So many unanswered questions. You have a fascinating mind gnicholas.
      - tekla 3y ago
        It's a freaking meme https://old.reddit.com/r/BrandNewSentence/comments/xskbuh/the_children_yearn_for_the_mines/ https://old.reddit.com/r/BrandNewSentence/comments/xskbuh/th...
  - atoav 3y ago
    The phrase is a satirical meme used to sarcastically comment on the ongoing tendencies to ease child labour restrictions and crontrols in certain parts of the US. Edit: those downvoting me, please consider that this is not necessarily the opinion I hold, I am not from the US and I might not have enough background information to even judge this. What I wrore above is what a 5 minutes on research on that phrase brought up.
- araes 3y ago
  I really need upvotes with themes sometimes. /s
- Manuel_D 3y ago
  If the alternative is poverty, this is likely correct. It's a difficult problem to solve, because people aren't very motivated to improve the economic situation in foreign countries.
User23 3y ago
> Isn't cheaper labor the main reason for migrant workers? I’m pretty sure the perception of a better quality of life is the main reason for migrant workers. I’ve never heard an H-1B say the reason they migrated is to drive down wages. That’s not to say that employers don’t enjoy depressing the workers’ share of profits, but since migration to the USA is currently voluntary the desires of employers cannot be the main reason.
- RandallBrown 3y ago
  I think they meant "Isn't cheaper labor the main reason to hire migrant workers?"
  - nothercastle 3y ago
    They also work harder and put up with shit labor practices but in a nutshell yes
    - User23 3y ago
      On the flip side I personally know a small business owner who got fined thousands by the feds for slightly overpaying his legal migrant workers. So failing to be properly exploitative is also illegal.

kelseyfrog 3y ago

> Are you also sure that some of those child laborers are not eager to work? The children yearn for the mines

gnicholas 3y ago
Are you comparing a skittles factory to an underground mine?
- ben0x539 3y ago
  No, they're mocking the notion that children actually want to be economically exploited. The specific phrase has some history in related online discourse.
- kdr77 3y ago
  Working in a factory is incredibly dangerous work and many children get permanently disabled or are killed. Here are more articles in this series: 1) https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/18/magazine/child-labor-dangerous-jobs.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/18/magazine/child-labor-dang... 2) https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/14/us/roofing-children-immigrants.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/14/us/roofing-ch...
  - gnicholas 3y ago
    No doubt it can be dangerous. But invoking “mines” is unnecessarily inflammatory.
    - kelseyfrog 3y ago
      This is an incredibly common phrase and you can view this as a learning opportunity. If its use is causing emotions in you, then what a good starting point in a journey of self discovery? Why do you think it makes you feel so inflamed?
      - gnicholas 3y ago
        Did you see emotion in my question, or in my use of the word "inflammatory"? If so, perhaps you should determine what is causing you to project emotion in this way.
        kelseyfrog 3y ago
        Inflammatory means it stirs emotions up in people. I'm glad you're aware of your emotions, but I'm curious, why did it do that for you?
        gnicholas 3y ago
        What dictionary are you citing? My dictionary says: arousing or intended to arouse angry or violent feelings. But you didn't answer my question, so I'll pass on answering yours (especially because it misstates what I said). Good day, strange stranger!
        kelseyfrog 3y ago
        So either it stirred within you emotions, or you're discrediting it because you're assuming that it does in others. I'm curious which of those it is. Is it the latter? Why would you care so much what others feel? What sort of violence would it imply? So many unanswered questions. You have a fascinating mind gnicholas.
    - tekla 3y ago
      It's a freaking meme https://old.reddit.com/r/BrandNewSentence/comments/xskbuh/the_children_yearn_for_the_mines/ https://old.reddit.com/r/BrandNewSentence/comments/xskbuh/th...
- atoav 3y ago
  The phrase is a satirical meme used to sarcastically comment on the ongoing tendencies to ease child labour restrictions and crontrols in certain parts of the US. Edit: those downvoting me, please consider that this is not necessarily the opinion I hold, I am not from the US and I might not have enough background information to even judge this. What I wrore above is what a 5 minutes on research on that phrase brought up.
araes 3y ago
I really need upvotes with themes sometimes. /s
Manuel_D 3y ago
If the alternative is poverty, this is likely correct. It's a difficult problem to solve, because people aren't very motivated to improve the economic situation in foreign countries.

User23 3y ago

> Isn't cheaper labor the main reason for migrant workers? I’m pretty sure the perception of a better quality of life is the main reason for migrant workers. I’ve never heard an H-1B say the reason they migrated is to drive down wages. That’s not to say that employers don’t enjoy depressing the workers’ share of profits, but since migration to the USA is currently voluntary the desires of employers cannot be the main reason.

RandallBrown 3y ago
I think they meant "Isn't cheaper labor the main reason to hire migrant workers?"
- nothercastle 3y ago
  They also work harder and put up with shit labor practices but in a nutshell yes
  - User23 3y ago
    On the flip side I personally know a small business owner who got fined thousands by the feds for slightly overpaying his legal migrant workers. So failing to be properly exploitative is also illegal.