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Why would you use an iPhone if you don't want to use iCloud? That is the entire point of buying into the Apple ecosystem.

r3d0c 3y ago
so you have to pay apple an ongoing fee to be able to manage your own files? does that seem rational? also such a weird line of thought that buying a single apple product isn't enough to be able to use it properly, and that any criticism of apple is just "us plebs using it wrong and not paying them more money"
- DavidPastrnak 3y ago
  You don’t have to pay Apple to manage your files. You can manage them with a traditional file manager if you’d like akin to any other device. If you want cloud storage, Apple provides free iCloud storage that will keep everything synced across your devices. There is an upper limit to the free tier space, at which you can purchase additional storage or move to a cloud platform of your choice.
  - nottorp 3y ago
    Considering how much of a premium you pay for the iPhones, that upper limit is stingy like hell. And Apple's marketing ain't great either. They push your photos to iCloud by default, which fills the free space instantly, then when you try to turn that off they give you a vague and threatening message that your photos will be lost. Marketing by threats will make me to at best give money to the competition.
    - DavidPastrnak 3y ago
      Do you have the text from the message that says all of your photos will be lost? I’ve never seen it.
      - nottorp 3y ago
        Yeah right, I'm hallucinating and so is my wife. More likely, you consider this type of sales copy normal and didn't notice it.
        DavidPastrnak 3y ago
        I use the Apple one family plan which is 2TB of storage so I’ve likely simply never seen it.
NikolaNovak 3y ago
But I do have and pay for Icloud. And then what? There's a dozen messages here that say "Icloud" and I guess that's the point, people use cloud and done care for details. But I do! I want to offload the files and put them on my NAS and on my backup off site drive and manage and organize them. Icloud is not a step in that direction (maybe it is if you have a Mac laptop but while point here is discussing iphone and iPad as their own devices.).

r3d0c 3y ago

so you have to pay apple an ongoing fee to be able to manage your own files? does that seem rational? also such a weird line of thought that buying a single apple product isn't enough to be able to use it properly, and that any criticism of apple is just "us plebs using it wrong and not paying them more money"

DavidPastrnak 3y ago
You don’t have to pay Apple to manage your files. You can manage them with a traditional file manager if you’d like akin to any other device. If you want cloud storage, Apple provides free iCloud storage that will keep everything synced across your devices. There is an upper limit to the free tier space, at which you can purchase additional storage or move to a cloud platform of your choice.
- nottorp 3y ago
  Considering how much of a premium you pay for the iPhones, that upper limit is stingy like hell. And Apple's marketing ain't great either. They push your photos to iCloud by default, which fills the free space instantly, then when you try to turn that off they give you a vague and threatening message that your photos will be lost. Marketing by threats will make me to at best give money to the competition.
  - DavidPastrnak 3y ago
    Do you have the text from the message that says all of your photos will be lost? I’ve never seen it.
    - nottorp 3y ago
      Yeah right, I'm hallucinating and so is my wife. More likely, you consider this type of sales copy normal and didn't notice it.
      - DavidPastrnak 3y ago
        I use the Apple one family plan which is 2TB of storage so I’ve likely simply never seen it.

NikolaNovak 3y ago

But I do have and pay for Icloud. And then what? There's a dozen messages here that say "Icloud" and I guess that's the point, people use cloud and done care for details. But I do! I want to offload the files and put them on my NAS and on my backup off site drive and manage and organize them. Icloud is not a step in that direction (maybe it is if you have a Mac laptop but while point here is discussing iphone and iPad as their own devices.).