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I want to be the consumer, not the product. With large media companies, it’s inevitable that I will become the product. Cable was supposed to be free of commer

I want to be the consumer, not the product. With large media companies, it’s inevitable that I will become the product. Cable was supposed to be free of commercials. Streaming was supposed to be free of commercials. Thankfully books are still free of commercials.

bombcar 3y ago
I’m so sorry to ruin your day. https://lithub.com/the-time-terry-pratchetts-german-publisher-inserted-a-soup-ad-into-his-novel/ https://lithub.com/the-time-terry-pratchetts-german-publishe...
- gchamonlive 3y ago
  Thank god this isn't pervasive
vel0city 3y ago
Cable had ads on it from day one. Only a few premium channels didn't have ads or only had pre-roll ads.
- PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
  this guy again. stop it, when people say it's ad-free they mean the content wasn't disrupted with an ad. stop attacking a strawman.
  - vel0city 3y ago
    this guy again > free of commercials This isn't "not disrupted by ads". This means no ads. Free of commercials, not limited commercials. Ad-free means ad-free. No mustard means no mustard not just no grey poupon. Not a hard concept to understand. And once again, cable had interruptive ads since the first cable was connected to the first subscriber. So even scoped to just pre-roll ads you're still denying highly documented history. National cable networks were making many millions in ad revenues the first few years into their existence. This means they ran ads. Aka, not free of commercials. The only way the above makes sense is to add a ton of qualifiers. "The whole point of a few premium channels on some cable networks 20 years into cable's history was limited to no advertising." Cable's original point was by no means "freedom from ads." And even this statement of "Streaming was supposed to be free of commercials" just ignores the fact Hulu had ad-supported streaming in 2007, pretty early in the commercial OTT streaming industry growth. YouTube started having ads in 2008. But I guess if you've been doing enough drugs to think Netflix started it's streaming business in the 90s you'd see that as late. The rest of us in reality see that's still pretty early in the commercial streaming world. stop denying reality.
    - PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
      the reason it's called a strawman is that you're not attacking what the person was actually arguing. stop it.
      - vel0city 3y ago
        > free of commercials This is literally what they said. If they wanted to say something else they should say something else, because cable was not free of commercials. This is not a straw man. And once again, cable had interruptive ads since the first cable was connected to the first subscriber. Cable's original point was by no means "freedom from ads." stop it.

bombcar 3y ago

I’m so sorry to ruin your day. https://lithub.com/the-time-terry-pratchetts-german-publisher-inserted-a-soup-ad-into-his-novel/ https://lithub.com/the-time-terry-pratchetts-german-publishe...

gchamonlive 3y ago
Thank god this isn't pervasive

vel0city 3y ago

Cable had ads on it from day one. Only a few premium channels didn't have ads or only had pre-roll ads.

PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
this guy again. stop it, when people say it's ad-free they mean the content wasn't disrupted with an ad. stop attacking a strawman.
- vel0city 3y ago
  this guy again > free of commercials This isn't "not disrupted by ads". This means no ads. Free of commercials, not limited commercials. Ad-free means ad-free. No mustard means no mustard not just no grey poupon. Not a hard concept to understand. And once again, cable had interruptive ads since the first cable was connected to the first subscriber. So even scoped to just pre-roll ads you're still denying highly documented history. National cable networks were making many millions in ad revenues the first few years into their existence. This means they ran ads. Aka, not free of commercials. The only way the above makes sense is to add a ton of qualifiers. "The whole point of a few premium channels on some cable networks 20 years into cable's history was limited to no advertising." Cable's original point was by no means "freedom from ads." And even this statement of "Streaming was supposed to be free of commercials" just ignores the fact Hulu had ad-supported streaming in 2007, pretty early in the commercial OTT streaming industry growth. YouTube started having ads in 2008. But I guess if you've been doing enough drugs to think Netflix started it's streaming business in the 90s you'd see that as late. The rest of us in reality see that's still pretty early in the commercial streaming world. stop denying reality.
  - PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
    the reason it's called a strawman is that you're not attacking what the person was actually arguing. stop it.
    - vel0city 3y ago
      > free of commercials This is literally what they said. If they wanted to say something else they should say something else, because cable was not free of commercials. This is not a straw man. And once again, cable had interruptive ads since the first cable was connected to the first subscriber. Cable's original point was by no means "freedom from ads." stop it.