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I have suggested that (the big) IF we all have autonomous vehicles what would the market segmentation look like when performance is no longer a significant diff

I have suggested that (the big) IF we all have autonomous vehicles what would the market segmentation look like when performance is no longer a significant difference. If the vehicles don't crash then impact resistance of the structure is not required, especially if "urban only" was a thing. The absolute budget model of a plastic shell and bench seats. To super luxury plush seating. If the crash structures all remained what they are now... Can you pay for "exciting mode" which maximizes braking and acceleration? What about "preservation mode" which prioritizes the safety of the occupants over the safety of third parties in the event of an incident? You can bet certain people will have that made available. "Defect mode" which cuts people up when merging. "Overtaker" which attempts to overtake other vehicles rather thango at the average speed. etc.

SilverBirch 3y ago
It seems pretty clear that if the vehicle becomes capable of doing real active driving then there should be the equivalent of a human driving test. Only the features that pass the test can go into the vehicle, so as per your example - an algorithm that cuts people up when merging would simply fail to pass the driving test and wouldn't be acceptable for deployment. I think the likeliest case for full self driving is almost the opposite of what you're describing. Because it's all code and it's reproducible and testable the car company is liable if they put out something that speeds or drives dangerously. The result will be FSD cars all driving at the speed limit, leaving appropriate breaking distances etc. - driving much more conservatively than the equivalent human driver. It's also about incentives, you as the consumer might want a car that drives a hundred miles per hour and weaves in and out of traffic, but if the car company is the one facing the liability for it then it's not going to happen.
- Baldbvrhunter 3y ago
  I just tried to imagine some scenarios. Im sure you could come up with some of your own you can have your ECU replaced / reprogrammed now by certain garages so I bet back street hackers would start offering "upgrades"

SilverBirch 3y ago

It seems pretty clear that if the vehicle becomes capable of doing real active driving then there should be the equivalent of a human driving test. Only the features that pass the test can go into the vehicle, so as per your example - an algorithm that cuts people up when merging would simply fail to pass the driving test and wouldn't be acceptable for deployment. I think the likeliest case for full self driving is almost the opposite of what you're describing. Because it's all code and it's reproducible and testable the car company is liable if they put out something that speeds or drives dangerously. The result will be FSD cars all driving at the speed limit, leaving appropriate breaking distances etc. - driving much more conservatively than the equivalent human driver. It's also about incentives, you as the consumer might want a car that drives a hundred miles per hour and weaves in and out of traffic, but if the car company is the one facing the liability for it then it's not going to happen.

Baldbvrhunter 3y ago
I just tried to imagine some scenarios. Im sure you could come up with some of your own you can have your ECU replaced / reprogrammed now by certain garages so I bet back street hackers would start offering "upgrades"