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I find it difficult to actually figure the proper position where the 27” Dell 4K (still very top notch) is just as far so that I can see it and not have to move

by larodi 3y ago

I find it difficult to actually figure the proper position where the 27” Dell 4K (still very top notch) is just as far so that I can see it and not have to move my head left and right. Anything beyond this size may be OK for games, but too much space and too much windows is actually too much of cognitive load. It is not a surprise that many ppl (not me though) start to prefer full screen terminal rather than dozen windows arranged in some disarray on a large screen.

quickthrower2 3y ago
I’m very happy with a laptop monitor and 1920x1080. Browser goes on laptop monitor and code on the monitor. I always will be. I am about condensing information to just what I need.
- sys_64738 3y ago
  This is my work method but use just code (terminal window driving tmux) on laptop monitor and 1920x1080 LCD for browser and sundry.
- lillecarl 3y ago
  Font rendering was my biggest QOL improvement with higher PPI
williamdclt 3y ago
I always thought that moving my head to look at another monitor isn’t really faster than pressing a key to make my fullscreen terminal appear, especially if we start taking cursor hunting into account
- vladvasiliu 3y ago
  I agree it's not faster, especially when using a simple WM with no animations. However, I also find it easier to recall where I was looking by moving my head between static content instead of having it change. FWIW I use a 32" screen positioned so that I barely need to move my head to see it all, and try to have all things I'm looking at visible at the same time.
- globular-toast 3y ago
  I did think that for years and I scoffed at multi-monitor setups thinking they were a poor imitation of the virtual desktops that have been present on *nix systems forever. But they are both good and complement each other. I use virtual desktops as more to separate unrelated areas of work (like different projects). It's like having a completely different desk with different books open on it. Having more screen space is just like having a bigger desk. It's like having multiple books open on your desk at once as opposed to picking up one at a time to look at it. One big monitor would be ideal (it could be split into an odd number of frames, for example), but in practice multiple monitors is a good compromise between flexibility and price.
- joshspankit 3y ago
  Another thing that would be nice if it was easy to make: a button to place the cursor where you’re looking.
  - thfuran 3y ago
    I don't know whether the software side is there or if the box, but it certainly seems like https://gaming.tobii.com/product/eye-tracker-5/ https://gaming.tobii.com/product/eye-tracker-5/ ought to be able to do that.
  - Arrath 3y ago
    I've always wanted window focus to go where I'm looking, it would be so nice. Probably with a modifier key though so I don't move out of a game just to read a wiki page though.
pjerem 3y ago
My dream monitor is a 22” 4K monitor. I searched it for a decade and this creature just doesn’t exists. There have never been a single 4K monitor under 27”. The only thing that somehow could do the job would be iMac’s panels but I’m just not interested in an All in one and I already have good enough computers.
- kzemek 3y ago
  > There have never been a single 4K monitor under 27”. There's a few 24", Dell has at least a couple.
- RodGodKiller 3y ago
  There used to be a 21-and-bit’’ 4K LG Ultrafine. You might be able to find it used.
- robin_reala 3y ago
  There’s four 24″ 4K monitors on Newegg right now, all LG: https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=101702297%20601205242%20601305587%20601190102%20600987767 https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=101702297%20601205242%20601305... There’s also this refurb 21.5″ 4K LG on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/LG-22MD4KA-B-UltraFine-Display-4096x2304/dp/B071LQL9QD https://www.amazon.com/LG-22MD4KA-B-UltraFine-Display-4096x2... And I’ve no idea about the quality, but the Dragon Touch S1 Pro 4K Portable Monitor is apparently 4K at 15.6″: https://www.dragontouch.com/products/s1-pro-4k-portable-monitor https://www.dragontouch.com/products/s1-pro-4k-portable-moni...
barnabee 3y ago
> I find it difficult to actually figure the proper position where the 27” Dell 4K (still very top notch) is just as far so that I can see it and not have to move my head left and right. > Anything beyond this size may be OK for games, but too much space and too much windows is actually too much of cognitive load. I find the oppposite. The goal is not to be looking at everything all of the time but to make anything I might want, from key chat channels or monitoring dashboards, to my calendar, reference docs, secondary source files, etc. to all be "glanceable" within a given context. I find a glance, even if it requires a turn of the head, is far preferable and breaks my flow/immersion much less than having to switch windows/desktops in place. It feels much more natural to me to place things like my calendar in a consistent physical place than to have everything intrude on one place, and I find it much easier to build the muscle memory for these glances. The biggest downside is that travelling, even with a small second monitor, completely breaks the setup.

by larodi 3y ago

quickthrower2 3y ago

I’m very happy with a laptop monitor and 1920x1080. Browser goes on laptop monitor and code on the monitor. I always will be. I am about condensing information to just what I need.

sys_64738 3y ago
This is my work method but use just code (terminal window driving tmux) on laptop monitor and 1920x1080 LCD for browser and sundry.
lillecarl 3y ago
Font rendering was my biggest QOL improvement with higher PPI

williamdclt 3y ago

I always thought that moving my head to look at another monitor isn’t really faster than pressing a key to make my fullscreen terminal appear, especially if we start taking cursor hunting into account

vladvasiliu 3y ago
I agree it's not faster, especially when using a simple WM with no animations. However, I also find it easier to recall where I was looking by moving my head between static content instead of having it change. FWIW I use a 32" screen positioned so that I barely need to move my head to see it all, and try to have all things I'm looking at visible at the same time.
globular-toast 3y ago
I did think that for years and I scoffed at multi-monitor setups thinking they were a poor imitation of the virtual desktops that have been present on *nix systems forever. But they are both good and complement each other. I use virtual desktops as more to separate unrelated areas of work (like different projects). It's like having a completely different desk with different books open on it. Having more screen space is just like having a bigger desk. It's like having multiple books open on your desk at once as opposed to picking up one at a time to look at it. One big monitor would be ideal (it could be split into an odd number of frames, for example), but in practice multiple monitors is a good compromise between flexibility and price.
joshspankit 3y ago
Another thing that would be nice if it was easy to make: a button to place the cursor where you’re looking.
- thfuran 3y ago
  I don't know whether the software side is there or if the box, but it certainly seems like https://gaming.tobii.com/product/eye-tracker-5/ https://gaming.tobii.com/product/eye-tracker-5/ ought to be able to do that.
- Arrath 3y ago
  I've always wanted window focus to go where I'm looking, it would be so nice. Probably with a modifier key though so I don't move out of a game just to read a wiki page though.

pjerem 3y ago

My dream monitor is a 22” 4K monitor. I searched it for a decade and this creature just doesn’t exists. There have never been a single 4K monitor under 27”. The only thing that somehow could do the job would be iMac’s panels but I’m just not interested in an All in one and I already have good enough computers.

kzemek 3y ago
> There have never been a single 4K monitor under 27”. There's a few 24", Dell has at least a couple.
RodGodKiller 3y ago
There used to be a 21-and-bit’’ 4K LG Ultrafine. You might be able to find it used.
robin_reala 3y ago
There’s four 24″ 4K monitors on Newegg right now, all LG: https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=101702297%20601205242%20601305587%20601190102%20600987767 https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=101702297%20601205242%20601305... There’s also this refurb 21.5″ 4K LG on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/LG-22MD4KA-B-UltraFine-Display-4096x2304/dp/B071LQL9QD https://www.amazon.com/LG-22MD4KA-B-UltraFine-Display-4096x2... And I’ve no idea about the quality, but the Dragon Touch S1 Pro 4K Portable Monitor is apparently 4K at 15.6″: https://www.dragontouch.com/products/s1-pro-4k-portable-monitor https://www.dragontouch.com/products/s1-pro-4k-portable-moni...

barnabee 3y ago

> I find it difficult to actually figure the proper position where the 27” Dell 4K (still very top notch) is just as far so that I can see it and not have to move my head left and right. > Anything beyond this size may be OK for games, but too much space and too much windows is actually too much of cognitive load. I find the oppposite. The goal is not to be looking at everything all of the time but to make anything I might want, from key chat channels or monitoring dashboards, to my calendar, reference docs, secondary source files, etc. to all be "glanceable" within a given context. I find a glance, even if it requires a turn of the head, is far preferable and breaks my flow/immersion much less than having to switch windows/desktops in place. It feels much more natural to me to place things like my calendar in a consistent physical place than to have everything intrude on one place, and I find it much easier to build the muscle memory for these glances. The biggest downside is that travelling, even with a small second monitor, completely breaks the setup.