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Netatmo deleted all Russian accounts and blocked smart devices

8 points by piskov 3y ago

piskov 3y ago
For more than a decade Netatmo produces weather stations, smart home cameras, smart locks, door bells, etc. Couple of weeks ago they blocked all Russian accounts and deleted all user data. New registrations are deleted and blocked within hours/days rendering devices worth hundreds/thousands of dollars useless. (unless one would setup a VPN or at least custom DNS for the devices on router level). > We apologize to our valued Netatmo customers for any inconvenience this cause and appreciate your understanding.
xkcd1963 3y ago
That is bad news for humanity.
- pjerem 3y ago
  I don’t get why you are downvoted. Like, sure, Netatmo probably had to do it for multiple reasons. But still it shows how stupid and fragile our always connected future is. Like, yes, for sure Netatmo is in the good guys team and cut the thermostats of the bad guys team. That’s nice and all, I’m also in the good guys team. Until someday, your stupid government happens to make a stupid decision and suddenly, without knowing it, all of your appliances are either not working anymore or working against you because now you happen to be in the bad guys team. Yeah, we really don’t want to piss off China.
- darthrupert 3y ago
  How? Pressuring a people to make their government stop a war seems like a good thing for humanity.
  - Poduraeff 3y ago
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  - xkcd1963 3y ago
    It only plays into the hands of the regime, since their rhetoric is that west wants to eradicate them. You are making ordinary people suffer. Also, it is very difficult to get rid of a regime.
MattGaiser 3y ago
Why was it working for that long in the first place? Is it unrelated to sanctions? This seems like it should have happened nearly two years ago.
- Nextgrid 3y ago
  I bet someone wanted to virtue-signal. The war is indeed not a new thing and if this needed to be done then it would've been done a long time ago.
- piskov 3y ago
  How should it be related to sanctions, ie what specific sanctions? If Apple keeps working and taking payments on App Store (even Apple TV+), HomeKit is working, etc. there’s no reason that Netatmo should not. This was out of the blue. No warning, or statement. They even kept selling the devices for some time on official Russian website.

8 points by piskov 3y ago

For more than a decade Netatmo produces weather stations, smart home cameras, smart locks, door bells, etc. Couple of weeks ago they blocked all Russian accounts and deleted all user data. New registrations are deleted and blocked within hours/days rendering devices worth hundreds/thousands of dollars useless. (unless one would setup a VPN or at least custom DNS for the devices on router level). > We apologize to our valued Netatmo customers for any inconvenience this cause and appreciate your understanding.

xkcd1963 3y ago

That is bad news for humanity.

pjerem 3y ago
I don’t get why you are downvoted. Like, sure, Netatmo probably had to do it for multiple reasons. But still it shows how stupid and fragile our always connected future is. Like, yes, for sure Netatmo is in the good guys team and cut the thermostats of the bad guys team. That’s nice and all, I’m also in the good guys team. Until someday, your stupid government happens to make a stupid decision and suddenly, without knowing it, all of your appliances are either not working anymore or working against you because now you happen to be in the bad guys team. Yeah, we really don’t want to piss off China.
darthrupert 3y ago
How? Pressuring a people to make their government stop a war seems like a good thing for humanity.
- Poduraeff 3y ago
  [dead]
- xkcd1963 3y ago
  It only plays into the hands of the regime, since their rhetoric is that west wants to eradicate them. You are making ordinary people suffer. Also, it is very difficult to get rid of a regime.

MattGaiser 3y ago

Why was it working for that long in the first place? Is it unrelated to sanctions? This seems like it should have happened nearly two years ago.

Nextgrid 3y ago
I bet someone wanted to virtue-signal. The war is indeed not a new thing and if this needed to be done then it would've been done a long time ago.
piskov 3y ago
How should it be related to sanctions, ie what specific sanctions? If Apple keeps working and taking payments on App Store (even Apple TV+), HomeKit is working, etc. there’s no reason that Netatmo should not. This was out of the blue. No warning, or statement. They even kept selling the devices for some time on official Russian website.