Ah, I think we may have been talking cross purposes. Languages themselves are innovative, but I guess I don't see people using the language as the innovation t

Ah, I think we may have been talking cross purposes. Languages themselves are innovative, but I guess I don't see people using the language as the innovation there, but rather the creator and maintainer. More specifically I don't see my early adoption of Ruby as innovative. No to the flamewars! I love Ruby and miss it every day (though C++ is growing on me).