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Time is money. Not saying it's worth $10, but not having to redo your search 9 times is worth something.

endisneigh 3y ago
if you're redoing your search queries in Google 9 times you should read the advanced search Google docs: https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/35890?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/35890?hl=en&co=G... e.g. quotes "", do not do what you think in Google. You need to explicitly go to Advanced Search and use "This exact word or phrase". I almost never do searches without site scopes. reddit is a frequent one, as well as foxnews, nyt, washingtonpost, etc. IMO searching without site scopes is just shooting in the dark. You should think about the top 3 sites that probably are good for what you're looking for and restrict to those. Kagi can help with this sort of thing, but I pretty much have it memorized so there's not much value for me.
- bluefirebrand 3y ago
  > You should think about the top 3 sites that probably are good for what you're looking for Such an odd way that search has evolved. It used to be about finding new websites that you'd never seen before because it was related to what you were looking for. Now the best way to use it is as an index for specific sites? Except those sites mostly have their own search bars, so why not just search them directly and cut the third party search engine out entirely?
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  - endisneigh 3y ago
    Google is an effective way to search all of the sites simultaneously, but otherwise yes I do also use the native search sometimes.
- foooorsyth 3y ago
  > e.g. quotes "", do not do what you think in Google So they changed this behavior without telling anyone then? Because before Google search quality went down the drain, quotes meant to search for an exact phrase. If they changed that without any notice, and users continue to perform searches with quotes expecting the legacy behavior, and Google doesn’t bother to even catch that potential confusion and direct them to the new convoluted advanced search flow, then that’s horrible UX. What a horrible loss of ingrained functionality, and a horrible loss of a shorthand for advanced users.
  - endisneigh 3y ago
    yes, at some point it was changed. I disagree with the move, but understand why it was made. the quotes have been made to be more like approximately, than exact. where the words mentioned will appear together in the order specified, but can have certain differences in punctuation.
- gkbrk 3y ago
  > Searching without site scopes is just shooting in the dark. You should think about the top 3 sites that probably are good for what you're looking for and restrict to those. Knowing the top 3 sources for my search queries seems like the job of the search engine rather than the user. Kagi doesn't need me to restrict my search scope to the top 3 sources that I choose in order get good results.

if you're redoing your search queries in Google 9 times you should read the advanced search Google docs: https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/35890?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/35890?hl=en&co=G... e.g. quotes "", do not do what you think in Google. You need to explicitly go to Advanced Search and use "This exact word or phrase". I almost never do searches without site scopes. reddit is a frequent one, as well as foxnews, nyt, washingtonpost, etc. IMO searching without site scopes is just shooting in the dark. You should think about the top 3 sites that probably are good for what you're looking for and restrict to those. Kagi can help with this sort of thing, but I pretty much have it memorized so there's not much value for me.

bluefirebrand 3y ago
> You should think about the top 3 sites that probably are good for what you're looking for Such an odd way that search has evolved. It used to be about finding new websites that you'd never seen before because it was related to what you were looking for. Now the best way to use it is as an index for specific sites? Except those sites mostly have their own search bars, so why not just search them directly and cut the third party search engine out entirely?
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- endisneigh 3y ago
  Google is an effective way to search all of the sites simultaneously, but otherwise yes I do also use the native search sometimes.
foooorsyth 3y ago
> e.g. quotes "", do not do what you think in Google So they changed this behavior without telling anyone then? Because before Google search quality went down the drain, quotes meant to search for an exact phrase. If they changed that without any notice, and users continue to perform searches with quotes expecting the legacy behavior, and Google doesn’t bother to even catch that potential confusion and direct them to the new convoluted advanced search flow, then that’s horrible UX. What a horrible loss of ingrained functionality, and a horrible loss of a shorthand for advanced users.
- endisneigh 3y ago
  yes, at some point it was changed. I disagree with the move, but understand why it was made. the quotes have been made to be more like approximately, than exact. where the words mentioned will appear together in the order specified, but can have certain differences in punctuation.
gkbrk 3y ago
> Searching without site scopes is just shooting in the dark. You should think about the top 3 sites that probably are good for what you're looking for and restrict to those. Knowing the top 3 sources for my search queries seems like the job of the search engine rather than the user. Kagi doesn't need me to restrict my search scope to the top 3 sources that I choose in order get good results.