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They're also being weaponized as offensive tools now too. I don't know about the EU specifically, but if you supported the trucker protest in Ottawa, the full f

They're also being weaponized as offensive tools now too. I don't know about the EU specifically, but if you supported the trucker protest in Ottawa, the full force of the state was used to lock your financial accounts and shut down all of your economic activity.

ummzokbro 3y ago
Unfortunate you are being downvoted - this is _exactly_ what happened. Ordinary people who funded, in small amounts, a grassroots non-violent protest that the ruling political party disagreed with and found inconvenient had their bank accounts frozen. They could not access their legally obtained funds, nor have additional legally obtained funds deposited. There is no precedent for an action like this. It is a good reminder of exactly what can and will happen with digital money - much like cloud video games, movies and music it is not actually yours - it can and will be revoked at any time by the platform for any reason.
- wojciii 3y ago
  This is DRM all over again.
mullingitover 3y ago
Just did some light reading[1] on the Canada convoy protest, and my reaction is: good. That was not a "peaceful protest." People were armed, ramming police vehicles, plotting political assassinations, and this was all on top of the basic crime of blocking public roads. I don't care what your political hobby horse is. Blocking roads, which need to be open for emergency vehicles at all times, is not a valid form of peaceful protest. If people supported that cluster of crimes financially they were making themselves part of the criminal activity and should deal with the consequences. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_convoy_protest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_convoy_protest
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- friend_and_foe 3y ago
  Since you're against the basic crime of blocking roads, I'm curious how you feel about this https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/08/americas/demonstrators-killed-mining-protests-panama/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/08/americas/demonstrators-killed... or the numerous other road blocking protests that were forcefully ended without resorting to murder. I'm also curious to know your opinions on other armed protests that did not end in a firefight of the past going back to the 1950s (most prominent in the US during civil rights protests), the torching of police cars during hundreds of such protests, and generally how you feel about acts of civil disobedience. Additionally, I'm curious about your opinions on extrajudicial punishment, government-corporate partnerships, and civil asset forfeiture. I don't care what your political hobby horse is, how do you feel about a government leaning on a corporate entity to extrajudicially seize control of peoples assets for engaging in civil disobedience?
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ummzokbro 3y ago

Unfortunate you are being downvoted - this is _exactly_ what happened. Ordinary people who funded, in small amounts, a grassroots non-violent protest that the ruling political party disagreed with and found inconvenient had their bank accounts frozen. They could not access their legally obtained funds, nor have additional legally obtained funds deposited. There is no precedent for an action like this. It is a good reminder of exactly what can and will happen with digital money - much like cloud video games, movies and music it is not actually yours - it can and will be revoked at any time by the platform for any reason.

wojciii 3y ago
This is DRM all over again.

mullingitover 3y ago

Just did some light reading[1] on the Canada convoy protest, and my reaction is: good. That was not a "peaceful protest." People were armed, ramming police vehicles, plotting political assassinations, and this was all on top of the basic crime of blocking public roads. I don't care what your political hobby horse is. Blocking roads, which need to be open for emergency vehicles at all times, is not a valid form of peaceful protest. If people supported that cluster of crimes financially they were making themselves part of the criminal activity and should deal with the consequences. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_convoy_protest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_convoy_protest

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friend_and_foe 3y ago
Since you're against the basic crime of blocking roads, I'm curious how you feel about this https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/08/americas/demonstrators-killed-mining-protests-panama/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/08/americas/demonstrators-killed... or the numerous other road blocking protests that were forcefully ended without resorting to murder. I'm also curious to know your opinions on other armed protests that did not end in a firefight of the past going back to the 1950s (most prominent in the US during civil rights protests), the torching of police cars during hundreds of such protests, and generally how you feel about acts of civil disobedience. Additionally, I'm curious about your opinions on extrajudicial punishment, government-corporate partnerships, and civil asset forfeiture. I don't care what your political hobby horse is, how do you feel about a government leaning on a corporate entity to extrajudicially seize control of peoples assets for engaging in civil disobedience?
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