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The article states that Mozilla is far from dying and that it’s diversifying itself away from Firefox.

irrational 3y ago
Away from Firefox? They don't have anything useful other than Firefox. Trash everything else and devote all resources to Firefox.
wincy 3y ago
Too bad every product that’s actually useful gets deprecated. Lockwise was great and it got deprecated.
ranger_danger 3y ago
it's only not dead yet because google is paying them to try to "avoid" being anti-competitive themselves. they're the single biggest investor by far.
bakugo 3y ago
>that it’s diversifying itself away from Firefox And Firefox is their only worthwhile product, so moving away from Firefox means they're dying.
- ForkMeOnTinder 3y ago
  I don't know what I'd do if Firefox died. Maybe it's time Firefox starts diversifying itself away from Mozilla.
  - sgift 3y ago
    And with which business model? That's the elephant in the room here. If it's only about unpaid developers, Firefox already has these currently in addition to the Mozilla employees, but if it wants to stay relevant it needs paid developers working on it full-time.
    - hooverd 3y ago
      Firefox isn't allowed to make money. Firefox developers should eat gruel and wear hairshirts and develop software for free. And also bring back XUL.
pardoned_turkey 3y ago
Mozilla has been diversifying itself away from Firefox for 15 years. They're still pouring money into SeaMonkey and Thunderbird, on top of a range of more recent projects that have no realistic chance of ever generating serious revenue, such as Mozilla VPN. I think there are two realistic paths for the company. One is to make the browser amazing and edgy in ways that Google and Microsoft can't match (out of the fear of cannibalizing revenue or running into regulatory trouble). Mozilla has a shot at it, but it's unlikely to happen if they have a defeatist attitude about it internally, and are focusing on non-browser pivots. The other path is to basically turn into some completely different company, throwing money at unrelated pursuits such as AI and hoping that you get lucky. But what gives Mozilla any edge with that?
- pseudalopex 3y ago
  SeaMonkey is an independent project allowed to use Mozilla infrastructure. Thunderbird is funded with user donations. What is serious revenue? Google and Microsoft are betting AI will be very relevant to web use. And what amazing and edgy features would Google and Microsoft be unable to match?

Away from Firefox? They don't have anything useful other than Firefox. Trash everything else and devote all resources to Firefox.

wincy 3y ago

Too bad every product that’s actually useful gets deprecated. Lockwise was great and it got deprecated.

ranger_danger 3y ago

it's only not dead yet because google is paying them to try to "avoid" being anti-competitive themselves. they're the single biggest investor by far.

bakugo 3y ago

>that it’s diversifying itself away from Firefox And Firefox is their only worthwhile product, so moving away from Firefox means they're dying.

ForkMeOnTinder 3y ago
I don't know what I'd do if Firefox died. Maybe it's time Firefox starts diversifying itself away from Mozilla.
- sgift 3y ago
  And with which business model? That's the elephant in the room here. If it's only about unpaid developers, Firefox already has these currently in addition to the Mozilla employees, but if it wants to stay relevant it needs paid developers working on it full-time.
  - hooverd 3y ago
    Firefox isn't allowed to make money. Firefox developers should eat gruel and wear hairshirts and develop software for free. And also bring back XUL.

pardoned_turkey 3y ago

Mozilla has been diversifying itself away from Firefox for 15 years. They're still pouring money into SeaMonkey and Thunderbird, on top of a range of more recent projects that have no realistic chance of ever generating serious revenue, such as Mozilla VPN. I think there are two realistic paths for the company. One is to make the browser amazing and edgy in ways that Google and Microsoft can't match (out of the fear of cannibalizing revenue or running into regulatory trouble). Mozilla has a shot at it, but it's unlikely to happen if they have a defeatist attitude about it internally, and are focusing on non-browser pivots. The other path is to basically turn into some completely different company, throwing money at unrelated pursuits such as AI and hoping that you get lucky. But what gives Mozilla any edge with that?

pseudalopex 3y ago
SeaMonkey is an independent project allowed to use Mozilla infrastructure. Thunderbird is funded with user donations. What is serious revenue? Google and Microsoft are betting AI will be very relevant to web use. And what amazing and edgy features would Google and Microsoft be unable to match?