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"But my emails are just not delivered anymore. I might as well not have an email server." I will never understand people who see it as an all or nothing propos
by mrb 3y ago
"But my emails are just not delivered anymore. I might as well not have an email server."
I will never understand people who see it as an all or nothing proposition. You can perfectly self-host while using an outgoing SMTP provider. This would solve all the problems the OP is having while still preserving the main benefit of self-hosting, meaning: managing your own MX records, you own IMAP server, so that government authorities don't have a single organization they can target to get access to your emails. Heck, if you are paranoid you can even have multiple outgoing SMTP providers and round-robin between them.
Edit: the author does mention not wanting to pay for an outgoing SMTP provider, but there are many free option: for example Gmail lets you use their SMTP server as long as you authenticate with a (free) Google account. That's possible with Yahoo, or many other providers.
- justsomehnguy 3y agoGlad I took a look at the comments first, because you just took the words from my mouth. Sure, it's a never ending battle with the behemoths but there are options and the most beautiful thing is what most of built-in in the SMTP itself.
- horusthegame 3y ago> You can perfectly self-host while using an outgoing SMTP provider. That's mostly selfhosting, not fully selfhosting. I full selfhost my email, I 100% control as much of it as is possible to do. When I send an email to someone, it goes from my client to my server and out to the recipient's server.
- justsomehnguy 3y agoHow often do you check TLS certs the recipient' server provides? And you can have an additional route just for some recipients, that doesn't make it less (or more) selfhosting.
- mrb 3y agoStill, I don't understand why someone who was self-hosting for 23 years suddenly abandons everything, instead of going "mostly self-hosting". I genuinely think some people are not aware you can have free, reliable, outgoing SMTP providers.
- nokya 3y agoMany people who self-host email do so to avoid having years of all their personal email communications logs centralized at one third-party company with ether lax security or lax privacy. It seems to me that you are proposing exactly this: routing all emails through one of these companies. How can this be a solution to "self-hosting"?