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That is a policy problem. Opening up more immigration makes that problem worse, not better. It should be a question that everyone asks: why do US Universities n

That is a policy problem. Opening up more immigration makes that problem worse, not better. It should be a question that everyone asks: why do US Universities not create an adequate supply of workers to meet the demand of the market? No one seems to care and the solution is always “just do more immigration”. Makes no sense.

alephnerd 3y ago
I worked on the policy side before I entered tech. You can't "command economy" human capital. It just doesn't work. Upskilling has a 5-10 year long lag time. Immigration is the only reason America hasn't stumbled like Europe, Japan, or Korea demographically.
- remarkEon 3y ago
  >Upskilling has a 5-10 year long lag time. So what? Again, this is a pipeline problem, that can be influenced and addressed via policy. I'm not trying to "command economy" anything. It's a problem that companies, and increasingly universities, don't think that it's a huge issue there not being enough home-grown citizens to fill these roles (a claim I find to be dubious at best). That is definitely something that policy can be used to fix. >Immigration is the only reason America hasn't stumbled like Europe, Japan, or Korea demographically. I don't know what this is supposed to mean. You want some demographic growth target to be hit? Europe has many countries in it, but mentioning Japan and Korea implies you have noticed the birth rates there. Well, I think the wrong question is being asked in that situation as well. If people aren't having babies, why? What changed? What policy options are there to fix that problem? Thinking that "just import a new workforce" fixes that is extremely weird to me, especially when they are coming from places that are not exactly culturally proximate to the places they are going, to say the least.
hasty_pudding 3y ago
The industry is so huge thats impossible to teach every aspect of the tech industry. The universities teach widely applicable curriculum. Companies should train employees, simple as.
bluecheese452 3y ago
They do. Companies just prefer to hire immigrants willing to work twice as long for half the pay.

alephnerd 3y ago

I worked on the policy side before I entered tech. You can't "command economy" human capital. It just doesn't work. Upskilling has a 5-10 year long lag time. Immigration is the only reason America hasn't stumbled like Europe, Japan, or Korea demographically.

remarkEon 3y ago
>Upskilling has a 5-10 year long lag time. So what? Again, this is a pipeline problem, that can be influenced and addressed via policy. I'm not trying to "command economy" anything. It's a problem that companies, and increasingly universities, don't think that it's a huge issue there not being enough home-grown citizens to fill these roles (a claim I find to be dubious at best). That is definitely something that policy can be used to fix. >Immigration is the only reason America hasn't stumbled like Europe, Japan, or Korea demographically. I don't know what this is supposed to mean. You want some demographic growth target to be hit? Europe has many countries in it, but mentioning Japan and Korea implies you have noticed the birth rates there. Well, I think the wrong question is being asked in that situation as well. If people aren't having babies, why? What changed? What policy options are there to fix that problem? Thinking that "just import a new workforce" fixes that is extremely weird to me, especially when they are coming from places that are not exactly culturally proximate to the places they are going, to say the least.

hasty_pudding 3y ago

The industry is so huge thats impossible to teach every aspect of the tech industry. The universities teach widely applicable curriculum. Companies should train employees, simple as.

bluecheese452 3y ago

They do. Companies just prefer to hire immigrants willing to work twice as long for half the pay.