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The problem is that instead of building a domestic talent pipeline for high demand skills we take the easy route and grab immigrants for it. So the talent pipe
by fallingknife 3y ago
The problem is that instead of building a domestic talent pipeline for high demand skills we take the easy route and grab immigrants for it. So the talent pipeline never gets built, and then we continue to be dependent on immigration. This is obviously not your company's fault because they are not policy makers, but if companies like yours were told "too bad, hire and train locally" you would get it done. e.g. I am a software engineer that currently has a TC of around $200K, and none of the skills you need, but I could easily be trained and learn any of that for a 300-750K TC at the end.
- alephnerd 3y ago> companies like yours were told "too bad, hire and train locally" Companies would collapse and fail, unless the government gave a massive corporate stimulus package (probably 4-5x the size of PPE). > none of the skills you need, but I could easily be trained It would take at least 1-2 years. At that point, an Israeli or Indian startup has taken market share and won. Welcome to cybersecurity and networking.
- fallingknife 3y agoI am unpersuaded as I have never heard of a company that collapsed and was replaced by foreign competition because they couldn't get enough H1Bs. But even if this is correct, the best that should get you is N visas for the next 2 years and then no more because you will have built the local talent pipeline you need by then.
- alephnerd 3y agoI replied to OP saying "only hire domestic" for every role. Even National Labs don't do that.
- hasty_pudding 3y agoNothing in tech takes that long to learn if you have someone with a decent background in the subject...
- FredPret 3y agoFalse - many critical edge cases only come up once every couple of years. In my area (not cybersecurity) I’m still seeing very serious and brand-new-to-me problems come up even after many years.
- hasty_pudding 3y agoSo even with your experience these are still occuring periodically. lol The solution for this is good testing and QA not fear mongering Americans into hiring immigrants.
- FredPret 3y agoIt’ll be very good for you to stay in learning mode after your degree. On the other hand, if your attitude is that you now know your stuff and you’re done learning, that isn’t going to produce the best outcomes for you. > Testing and QA Business processes can’t take the place of experienced judgement.
- hasty_pudding 3y ago> Business processes can’t take the place of experienced judgement. This is utterly incorrect.. Testing and QA are techical processes run by engineers. Where did you get your degree ? Your knowledge of tech seems extraordinarily limited. Theres solutions to your problems you're not even aware of.