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> you are better served elsewhere such as Yandex What an interesting example you picked considering its tight affiliation with Russian Gov and the well known r

by id00 3y ago

> you are better served elsewhere such as Yandex What an interesting example you picked considering its tight affiliation with Russian Gov and the well known record of censoring news and search results Just one of examples https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/02/01/a-window-into-yandex-s-censorship https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/02/01/a-window-into-yandex...

kornhole 3y ago
To clarify, I do not recommend relying on any single source. Multiple sources will broaden your perspective. You can look at Google and other NATO based search engines to see the results they want or don't want you to see, and then you can look at non-NATO aligned sources to see other results.
- bdhcuidbebe 3y ago
  > NATO based search engines You sir are just hilarious!
lmm 3y ago
You can't trust any search engine to tell you the truth about a country in which it operates extensively; in most cases it will have been subverted by that government. Yandex is not a good source about matters in or closely concerning Russia, but it's very useful to those of us outside Russia for finding truths that are suppressed where we are.
- Pikamander2 3y ago
  Care to give some tangible examples? I suspect that whatever you consider to be "suppressed" is actually freely available and being discussed to whatever degree people care to discuss it.
  - lmm 3y ago
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    - bdhcuidbebe 3y ago
      > Is George Soros' involvement funding the "migrant caravan" long enough ago that it's not a hot-button issue? So this is the ”truth” that is hidden from you? I don’t subscribe to this nonsense but still I seen this even on my facebook feed. It is not hidden, it is simply a psyops you fell for. You might be interested in how Russia launched the syrian migrant wave into Europe in 2015, because that actually happened.
      - lmm 3y ago
        Thanks for proving my point I guess. (FWIW It's documented fact, if you read carefully even the respectable media will never actually deny it, they just downplay and dismiss it (e.g. I remember the Economist mentioning it parenthetically as "a far-right talking point" or some such - making it sound like they were calling it false, but without actually doing so))
  - kornhole 3y ago
    Simply enter the exact same search terms for any controversial issue into both Google and Yandex.com to compare the results. It could be about Ukraine war, covid died suddenly, or Gaza. Try 'Google CIA'.
    - quickthrowman 3y ago
      So you’re telling me that two different search engines from two different companies using two different algorithms return two different sets of results. Uh, what’s the problem with that?
      - oceanplexian 3y ago
        One of them returns articles primarily from CNN, AP, Fox News, etc. All of the MSM organizations that 70% of Americans do not trust. Even for things that have nothing to do with $politics, I’m always getting these trash results from Google. Yandex at least returns results from some of the above but at least has a mix of third party websites, indie news sites, forums, etc.

by id00 3y ago

kornhole 3y ago

To clarify, I do not recommend relying on any single source. Multiple sources will broaden your perspective. You can look at Google and other NATO based search engines to see the results they want or don't want you to see, and then you can look at non-NATO aligned sources to see other results.

bdhcuidbebe 3y ago
> NATO based search engines You sir are just hilarious!

lmm 3y ago

You can't trust any search engine to tell you the truth about a country in which it operates extensively; in most cases it will have been subverted by that government. Yandex is not a good source about matters in or closely concerning Russia, but it's very useful to those of us outside Russia for finding truths that are suppressed where we are.

Pikamander2 3y ago
Care to give some tangible examples? I suspect that whatever you consider to be "suppressed" is actually freely available and being discussed to whatever degree people care to discuss it.
- lmm 3y ago
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  - bdhcuidbebe 3y ago
    > Is George Soros' involvement funding the "migrant caravan" long enough ago that it's not a hot-button issue? So this is the ”truth” that is hidden from you? I don’t subscribe to this nonsense but still I seen this even on my facebook feed. It is not hidden, it is simply a psyops you fell for. You might be interested in how Russia launched the syrian migrant wave into Europe in 2015, because that actually happened.
    - lmm 3y ago
      Thanks for proving my point I guess. (FWIW It's documented fact, if you read carefully even the respectable media will never actually deny it, they just downplay and dismiss it (e.g. I remember the Economist mentioning it parenthetically as "a far-right talking point" or some such - making it sound like they were calling it false, but without actually doing so))
- kornhole 3y ago
  Simply enter the exact same search terms for any controversial issue into both Google and Yandex.com to compare the results. It could be about Ukraine war, covid died suddenly, or Gaza. Try 'Google CIA'.
  - quickthrowman 3y ago
    So you’re telling me that two different search engines from two different companies using two different algorithms return two different sets of results. Uh, what’s the problem with that?
    - oceanplexian 3y ago
      One of them returns articles primarily from CNN, AP, Fox News, etc. All of the MSM organizations that 70% of Americans do not trust. Even for things that have nothing to do with $politics, I’m always getting these trash results from Google. Yandex at least returns results from some of the above but at least has a mix of third party websites, indie news sites, forums, etc.