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Won't this just dramatically shrink the number of initial work visas given out? Because you'll have to assume each one is now just a green card with extra steps

• jmyeet 3y ago
  Why do we need a quota for qualified people getting work visas (or green cards) at all? We don't.
  • sokoloff 3y ago
    If the qualifications are for a field that has 95 workers for every 100 jobs, come on in. If it’s for a field that already has 105 workers for every 100 jobs, I can see a lot of reasons ($$$) why current residents would want to see their potential competitors stifled or limited in number.
  • rayiner 3y ago
    Because we don’t want an unlimited number of foreigners moving into the country? Like it or not that’s the reason Congress won’t touch the issue, right?
    • polygamous_bat 3y ago
      Please check the requirements for each of the "national interest waivers" and tell me how many "unlimited foreigners" meet that requirement.
      • neuronexmachina 3y ago
        TIL: https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/permanent-workers https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/permanent...
    • gourabmi 3y ago
      This "unlimited number" argument is a common dog whistle. If the Dept of Labor is certifying each one of the qualified immigrants and vetting the credentials, how is this unlimited?
      • junofan 3y ago
        Dog whistle for what? Calling for deportation? The comment is literally just “we can’t take every immigrant.” What other position is there?
        • gourabmi 3y ago
          You should not take every immigrant. Take immigrants who bring their skills and productivity to you. Don't make their lives difficult with unnecessary hoops to jump through. Skilled immigration is not asylum or illegal immigration.
          • geodel 3y ago
            Well they are taking 100s of thousands immigrants as they see reasonable. What is problem with following established rules and timelines? Immigrants would surely be aware of those before even thinking of immigration. Besides if Europe / Australia / Canada have much simpler immigration why would any skilled/productive prospective immigrant would even think of US.
            • Jalad 3y ago
              > Besides if Europe / Australia / Canada have much simpler immigration why would any skilled/productive prospective immigrant would even think of US. US wages are significantly higher, and it also has a much more developed tech industry (picking the T from STEM since that's what I know about most). The US's tech industry succeeds in spite of their immigration policies, not because of it
            • gourabmi 3y ago
              1. The problem with established rules and timelines is they are have been outdated for decades and do not reflect the reality we live in. If the same logic was applied to federal minimum wage, it would never be raised because the number has been well established at an arbitrary time in the past. That is surely not the case and hence timely revisions are necessary. 2. Immigrants are absolutely aware of this. That is reason why overall skilled immigration has not grown by leaps and bounds in the last few years like it did decades ago. US is no longer the top destination of choice for international students in STEM fields. It is only a matter of time that you'd see the effects on overall productivity. The Social Security Administration is already hinting towards this future. The funds are supposed to run out by 2041 (reference https://www.ssa.gov/newsletter/Statement%20Insert%2025+.pdf https://www.ssa.gov/newsletter/Statement%20Insert%2025+.pdf ) . Quoting from the document ".. the birth rate is low, the ratio of workers to beneficiaries is falling.." . The US simply doesn't have enough productive people to fund benefits for the population for the coming decades.