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My laptop is older than that and I have no problem getting updates. Turns out tightly coupling hardware and software for general computing devices is not such a

My laptop is older than that and I have no problem getting updates. Turns out tightly coupling hardware and software for general computing devices is not such a great idea for users or the environment.

999900000999 3y ago
Microsoft straight up disallows Windows 11 installation on plenty of PCs that could easily run it. Sure you can argue that it's "easy" to install Linux on it, but that's out of scope for the typical user.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  Apple straight-up disallows MacOS updates on plenty of Macs that could easily update, too. I'd even argue they're worse than Microsoft about it; I heard about Opencore Legacy Patcher looooong before I knew people were modifying Windows 11 images to get a working install. > you can argue that it's "easy" to install Linux on it In my experience, the average Linux install wizard is less technically involved than the MacOS one. So yeah, maybe I would argue that.
  - 999900000999 3y ago
    Most people don't even know how to install an OS. I wouldn't expect the typical person to be able to do it.
    - smoldesu 3y ago
      Moot point. Both Microsoft and Apple expected the user to install their own OS in the past, and the world didn't explode because of it. If stuff like UEFI and bootloader unlocking was standard again, OS installation would be easy as plugging in a dongle and rebooting. Plus, you still haven't touched the central point; tightly coupled software and hardware creates more e-waste. What people do today doesn't matter if they're never presented a serious alternative; if ignorance was a basis for removing functionality there would be nothing left of the modern smartphone.
      - d3w4s9 3y ago
        Apple fans would say tightly coupled software and software is why Apple products are better than competitors. I don't fully agree but I can see the point.
        smoldesu 3y ago
        They may be right. If that same system has proven harms though (or even simple conflicts-of-interest), Apple might have to find a new business model. The whole "we own your app store, we own your payment processor" shtick has really raised eyebrows in the international markets.

999900000999 3y ago

Microsoft straight up disallows Windows 11 installation on plenty of PCs that could easily run it. Sure you can argue that it's "easy" to install Linux on it, but that's out of scope for the typical user.

smoldesu 3y ago
Apple straight-up disallows MacOS updates on plenty of Macs that could easily update, too. I'd even argue they're worse than Microsoft about it; I heard about Opencore Legacy Patcher looooong before I knew people were modifying Windows 11 images to get a working install. > you can argue that it's "easy" to install Linux on it In my experience, the average Linux install wizard is less technically involved than the MacOS one. So yeah, maybe I would argue that.
- 999900000999 3y ago
  Most people don't even know how to install an OS. I wouldn't expect the typical person to be able to do it.
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    Moot point. Both Microsoft and Apple expected the user to install their own OS in the past, and the world didn't explode because of it. If stuff like UEFI and bootloader unlocking was standard again, OS installation would be easy as plugging in a dongle and rebooting. Plus, you still haven't touched the central point; tightly coupled software and hardware creates more e-waste. What people do today doesn't matter if they're never presented a serious alternative; if ignorance was a basis for removing functionality there would be nothing left of the modern smartphone.
    - d3w4s9 3y ago
      Apple fans would say tightly coupled software and software is why Apple products are better than competitors. I don't fully agree but I can see the point.
      - smoldesu 3y ago
        They may be right. If that same system has proven harms though (or even simple conflicts-of-interest), Apple might have to find a new business model. The whole "we own your app store, we own your payment processor" shtick has really raised eyebrows in the international markets.