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Any examples?

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sneak 3y ago
Two off the top of my head: “If you’re not a Bad Guy or doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear from government surveillance.” “There is a huge problem of violence in the USA stemming from the use of assault weapons.”
- Xeamek 3y ago
  ? Neither of those are even close to the 99% threshold.
  - swayvil 3y ago
    Then go with 98 Jesus, you people would eat a rock if I called it a sandwich.
    - Xeamek 3y ago
      ...or maybe your examples are just extreemely bad and don't fit at all?
    - j4yav 3y ago
      They are more like 50 though? Unless you break them up into groups (political parties oriented around being for/against a topic may be quite well aligned in their views, but it's almost a tautology - you can probably divide people up lots of ways to align groups of views, but it isn't necessarily indicative of psyops).
zo1 3y ago
OP's use of "99%" makes it very hard. But if you turn it around to mean "99%" of all publicized and acceptable discussion then you could easily include all sorts of stuff. E.g.: "(Skin Color) Diversity is good" - It feels good to say, and yet doesn't capture anything meaningful. It's just used as a stick to beat people over the head with so they comply.
- 082349872349872 3y ago
  > and yet doesn't capture anything meaningful Odd that you would say that, as it logically subsumes the very meaningful "treating people/sneetches poorly because they have different melanin phenotype/stars on their bellies is bad". I'm still waiting for the world where skin colour is about as important as hair (yes, this has vastly improved since my youth) or eye colour, eg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW68oWV9uE4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW68oWV9uE4 "girls are different / brunettes, blondes, redheads..." (yes, it's heteronormative, but the video, and even some subtones of the text, suggest comfort with more diversity than was either popular at the time, or even, for some people, now)
  - zo1 3y ago
    Currently it means treat people as special because of their skin color and to me is pretty much actual racism. In an ideal world it would mean what you say it does (everyone is valued equally irrespective of melanin or other immutable characteristic), but as someone born with the wrong skin color it pretty much means I'm valued less by polite society. It's horrible and I won't stand for it. History will judge them.
    - 082349872349872 3y ago
      > someone born with the wrong skin color it pretty much means I'm valued less that sounds bad; do you have any specific examples from the last year?
    - j4yav 3y ago
      You'd be surprised to find how many people have the same stance as you, it's nowhere near a <1-3% view indicating a psyop has occurred using this heuristic.
me_me_me 3y ago
Breathing air is good for you.
swayvil 3y ago
The mask. Now before you howl and point your finger. I still see guys with beards wearing masks religiously. People wearing them under the nose too. These intensely virtuous yet somehow irrational people. That mask got into their head. And it wasn't via a rational avenue.
- j4yav 3y ago
  Mask wearing never hit anywhere near 99 percent, did it? A party with about 50% of the vote even largely defined themselves as being against it.
  - swayvil 3y ago
    A bearded person who wears the mask religiously. Would you call that a believer or something else?
    - j4yav 3y ago
      I'm not sure but I wouldn't call it satisfying the heuristic being discussed here as evidence of a psyop. > When the public opinion becomes nigh uniform. When near 99% of everybody agrees. When you see them mouthing the same catchy phrases. That's a psyop.

Any examples?

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Two off the top of my head: “If you’re not a Bad Guy or doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear from government surveillance.” “There is a huge problem of violence in the USA stemming from the use of assault weapons.”

Xeamek 3y ago
? Neither of those are even close to the 99% threshold.
- swayvil 3y ago
  Then go with 98 Jesus, you people would eat a rock if I called it a sandwich.
  - Xeamek 3y ago
    ...or maybe your examples are just extreemely bad and don't fit at all?
  - j4yav 3y ago
    They are more like 50 though? Unless you break them up into groups (political parties oriented around being for/against a topic may be quite well aligned in their views, but it's almost a tautology - you can probably divide people up lots of ways to align groups of views, but it isn't necessarily indicative of psyops).

zo1 3y ago

OP's use of "99%" makes it very hard. But if you turn it around to mean "99%" of all publicized and acceptable discussion then you could easily include all sorts of stuff. E.g.: "(Skin Color) Diversity is good" - It feels good to say, and yet doesn't capture anything meaningful. It's just used as a stick to beat people over the head with so they comply.

082349872349872 3y ago
> and yet doesn't capture anything meaningful Odd that you would say that, as it logically subsumes the very meaningful "treating people/sneetches poorly because they have different melanin phenotype/stars on their bellies is bad". I'm still waiting for the world where skin colour is about as important as hair (yes, this has vastly improved since my youth) or eye colour, eg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW68oWV9uE4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW68oWV9uE4 "girls are different / brunettes, blondes, redheads..." (yes, it's heteronormative, but the video, and even some subtones of the text, suggest comfort with more diversity than was either popular at the time, or even, for some people, now)
- zo1 3y ago
  Currently it means treat people as special because of their skin color and to me is pretty much actual racism. In an ideal world it would mean what you say it does (everyone is valued equally irrespective of melanin or other immutable characteristic), but as someone born with the wrong skin color it pretty much means I'm valued less by polite society. It's horrible and I won't stand for it. History will judge them.
  - 082349872349872 3y ago
    > someone born with the wrong skin color it pretty much means I'm valued less that sounds bad; do you have any specific examples from the last year?
  - j4yav 3y ago
    You'd be surprised to find how many people have the same stance as you, it's nowhere near a <1-3% view indicating a psyop has occurred using this heuristic.

me_me_me 3y ago

Breathing air is good for you.

swayvil 3y ago

The mask. Now before you howl and point your finger. I still see guys with beards wearing masks religiously. People wearing them under the nose too. These intensely virtuous yet somehow irrational people. That mask got into their head. And it wasn't via a rational avenue.

j4yav 3y ago
Mask wearing never hit anywhere near 99 percent, did it? A party with about 50% of the vote even largely defined themselves as being against it.
- swayvil 3y ago
  A bearded person who wears the mask religiously. Would you call that a believer or something else?
  - j4yav 3y ago
    I'm not sure but I wouldn't call it satisfying the heuristic being discussed here as evidence of a psyop. > When the public opinion becomes nigh uniform. When near 99% of everybody agrees. When you see them mouthing the same catchy phrases. That's a psyop.