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I honestly stopped watching at the mention of MKULTRA. Too many of these talks resort to the tired tedtalk techniques of building credibility with some shoddy

I honestly stopped watching at the mention of MKULTRA. Too many of these talks resort to the tired tedtalk techniques of building credibility with some shoddy journalism linking something common today (facial recognition) to some past horror (mkultra+experiments on dogs) just obscure enough that people recognize it as evil but dont know any details, making them open and eager to absorb whatever bunk you shovel at them. Such links are normally made through references to obscure historical figures, conveniently dead enough that they cannot refute any allegations. Want to have a serious talk about psyops? Start by not employing such childish techniques in your own videos. Here is a real psyops story. Not ancient history. Something recent involving alive people subject to modern scrutiny. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/psychological-warfare-influence-campaign-canadian-armed-forces-1.6079084 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/psychological-warfare-influ...

drekipus 3y ago
MKULTRA is an easy stepping stone for anyone who isn't aware. If you are aware, you can simply skip over it, it doesn't detract from the talk
twic 3y ago
I watched the whole thing, and i think you made the right decision. There aren't any facts or solid connections here you couldn't learn from browsing wikipedia for twenty minutes. I particularly enjoyed the bit with the leaked GCHQ slide deck where he points out that there are a lot of pictures of UFOs in it, and says he doesn't know why, but perhaps it's because GCHQ are using them for disinformation. Rather than as, you know metaphors. Or maybe metaphors are considered advanced British BRAIN SCIENCE?
- sandworm101 3y ago
  Now i wish i stuck with it. Ridiculous flying saucer speculation is a guilty pleasure for me. But here is a better story of reverse-psyops, of when the public created fake flying saucers to trick the UK military. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-41110193 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-41110193
me_me_me 3y ago
He did kind of touch on that in the talk. Its incredibly hard to prove anything as the current stuff is all secret, and ever smaller groups of people can pull this kind of things. The talk was bit chaotic, but he clearly tried to sketch a vector out of past event and their heading at the time.
bdhcuidbebe 3y ago
> tedtalk techniques of building credibility with some shoddy journalism linking something common today popularized by Adam Curtis decades before TED
sss111 3y ago
thank you, this honestly sums it up. The talk started out with a nice hook but I pretty much lost it when he started extrapolating things to that level.

drekipus 3y ago

MKULTRA is an easy stepping stone for anyone who isn't aware. If you are aware, you can simply skip over it, it doesn't detract from the talk

twic 3y ago

I watched the whole thing, and i think you made the right decision. There aren't any facts or solid connections here you couldn't learn from browsing wikipedia for twenty minutes. I particularly enjoyed the bit with the leaked GCHQ slide deck where he points out that there are a lot of pictures of UFOs in it, and says he doesn't know why, but perhaps it's because GCHQ are using them for disinformation. Rather than as, you know metaphors. Or maybe metaphors are considered advanced British BRAIN SCIENCE?

sandworm101 3y ago
Now i wish i stuck with it. Ridiculous flying saucer speculation is a guilty pleasure for me. But here is a better story of reverse-psyops, of when the public created fake flying saucers to trick the UK military. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-41110193 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-41110193

me_me_me 3y ago

He did kind of touch on that in the talk. Its incredibly hard to prove anything as the current stuff is all secret, and ever smaller groups of people can pull this kind of things. The talk was bit chaotic, but he clearly tried to sketch a vector out of past event and their heading at the time.

bdhcuidbebe 3y ago

> tedtalk techniques of building credibility with some shoddy journalism linking something common today popularized by Adam Curtis decades before TED

sss111 3y ago

thank you, this honestly sums it up. The talk started out with a nice hook but I pretty much lost it when he started extrapolating things to that level.