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Possibly because once an article is published the author receives no further payment. In all other mediums, there are residuals and royalties to be paid to the

Possibly because once an article is published the author receives no further payment. In all other mediums, there are residuals and royalties to be paid to the creators of the work.

manojlds 3y ago
And add to that fact that NYT subscription is hard to unsubscribe from. People have aversion to NYT, even setting aside the bias.
- hef19898 3y ago
  It took me all of 5 minutes to cancel my digital NYT subscription from the following month onward. No idea what you are talking about.
  - lupusreal 3y ago
    Why did it take you five minutes instead of twenty seconds? It should be as simple as clicking on the link to your profile then clicking unsubscribe, mere seconds not minutes. Assuming you just said five minutes figuratively... Do you live in California or some other legal jurisdiction that forces them to play nice? Did you subscribe through some other company, like Apple? Horror stories about unsubscribing from the NYTimes are easy to find in the archive if you search for it. They make you call and chat to a retention specialist on the phone. This should help you have an idea of what he's talking about: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=NYTimes%20unsubscribe%20call&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
    - hef19898 3y ago
      International one, as szraight forward as it could be: go to profile, go to manage subscription, cancel subscription, answer question why if you want, confirm cancellation, done for date depending on subscription.
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  - cruano 3y ago
    That's only been true for the past few months, and it's been very well documented how complicated the cancelation process used to be [0]. It's funny because I use PayPal for any unknown-to-me site where I don't want to give out my card, but the only site where I've needed their help to cancel something was the New York Times. [0] https://www.nirandfar.com/cancel-new-york-times/ https://www.nirandfar.com/cancel-new-york-times/
afavour 3y ago
Articles have ads on them, how are they not residual payments based on views?
- nulbyte 3y ago
  I believe GP was referring to payments to the writer, not the publisher.
  - Popeyes 3y ago
    Yes, although I get that the route of the money may find it's way back to the journalist as salary. But generally goes into a pot for news gathering of which the salary will be withdrawn. On ads it's acceptable to distribute them freely and it is advantageous to the company. Can we also see good journalism as an ad for the quality of a broader product?

Possibly because once an article is published the author receives no further payment. In all other mediums, there are residuals and royalties to be paid to the creators of the work.

manojlds 3y ago

And add to that fact that NYT subscription is hard to unsubscribe from. People have aversion to NYT, even setting aside the bias.

hef19898 3y ago
It took me all of 5 minutes to cancel my digital NYT subscription from the following month onward. No idea what you are talking about.
- lupusreal 3y ago
  Why did it take you five minutes instead of twenty seconds? It should be as simple as clicking on the link to your profile then clicking unsubscribe, mere seconds not minutes. Assuming you just said five minutes figuratively... Do you live in California or some other legal jurisdiction that forces them to play nice? Did you subscribe through some other company, like Apple? Horror stories about unsubscribing from the NYTimes are easy to find in the archive if you search for it. They make you call and chat to a retention specialist on the phone. This should help you have an idea of what he's talking about: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=NYTimes%20unsubscribe%20call&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
  - hef19898 3y ago
    International one, as szraight forward as it could be: go to profile, go to manage subscription, cancel subscription, answer question why if you want, confirm cancellation, done for date depending on subscription.
  - deleted 3y ago
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- cruano 3y ago
  That's only been true for the past few months, and it's been very well documented how complicated the cancelation process used to be [0]. It's funny because I use PayPal for any unknown-to-me site where I don't want to give out my card, but the only site where I've needed their help to cancel something was the New York Times. [0] https://www.nirandfar.com/cancel-new-york-times/ https://www.nirandfar.com/cancel-new-york-times/

afavour 3y ago

Articles have ads on them, how are they not residual payments based on views?

nulbyte 3y ago
I believe GP was referring to payments to the writer, not the publisher.
- Popeyes 3y ago
  Yes, although I get that the route of the money may find it's way back to the journalist as salary. But generally goes into a pot for news gathering of which the salary will be withdrawn. On ads it's acceptable to distribute them freely and it is advantageous to the company. Can we also see good journalism as an ad for the quality of a broader product?