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This seems sensible but I'm not sure it's going to be much simpler than git/GitHub. The syntax is quite close to git's --word-diff syntax The [-old-]{+new

This seems sensible but I'm not sure it's going to be much simpler than git/GitHub. The syntax is quite close to git's --word-diff syntax The [-old-]{+new+} word is better

dash2 3y ago
I've tried to get coauthors to move to github and it is a huge blocker. Even just installing git is painful, then they have to learn about add/commit/pull/push. They don't get it.
- ellisv 3y ago
  I’m going to be a little facetious but how did you get your coworkers to adopt suggestions? I’m not sure using git is any more or less difficult than suggestions.
  - dash2 3y ago
    If it isn't, I've failed. I think you can learn suggestions in 5 minutes. I've been using git for 10 years and still feel like an amateur.
- deleted 3y ago
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- petepete 3y ago
  I'd recommend trying GitHub Desktop. I've had plenty of success helping content designers get to the level where they can directly contribute to projects (instead of pinning a Word doc to a JIRA ticket).
anonyme-honteux 3y ago
Git is designed for code and is terrible/overcomplex for words. A proper vcs for documentation is what Wikipedia does. You always see the latest version of a document and you can see the changes to that document, revert and follow renames. No global history, no commits of multiple files, no manual pull/push, no branches, no CI, no pr, no rewrite of history, no multiple remotes, etc etc etc
- ivanjermakov 3y ago
  > Git is designed for code and is terrible/overcomplex for words I think this is not git problem, rather diff tool it's using? Wonder if using another one, e.g. difftastic[1] would be a better experience. [1]: https://github.com/Wilfred/difftastic https://github.com/Wilfred/difftastic
  - BeFlatXIII 3y ago
    I wonder how difftastic would handle a paragraph that got reflowed via a gqip command. Would it show almost every word as changed or only the changed words and ignore the fact that many others now reside on different lines?
- petepete 3y ago
  If you teach a beginner to use GitHub Desktop lots of the complexities you mention above are smoothed over. The PR/MR is the biggest win, being able to comment on, discuss, suggest, resolve and 'sign off' changes works better in a PR/MR than any other versioned tool I've seen.

This seems sensible but I'm not sure it's going to be much simpler than git/GitHub. The syntax is quite close to git's --word-diff syntax The [-old-]{+new+} word is better

dash2 3y ago

I've tried to get coauthors to move to github and it is a huge blocker. Even just installing git is painful, then they have to learn about add/commit/pull/push. They don't get it.

ellisv 3y ago
I’m going to be a little facetious but how did you get your coworkers to adopt suggestions? I’m not sure using git is any more or less difficult than suggestions.
- dash2 3y ago
  If it isn't, I've failed. I think you can learn suggestions in 5 minutes. I've been using git for 10 years and still feel like an amateur.
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petepete 3y ago
I'd recommend trying GitHub Desktop. I've had plenty of success helping content designers get to the level where they can directly contribute to projects (instead of pinning a Word doc to a JIRA ticket).

anonyme-honteux 3y ago

Git is designed for code and is terrible/overcomplex for words. A proper vcs for documentation is what Wikipedia does. You always see the latest version of a document and you can see the changes to that document, revert and follow renames. No global history, no commits of multiple files, no manual pull/push, no branches, no CI, no pr, no rewrite of history, no multiple remotes, etc etc etc

ivanjermakov 3y ago
> Git is designed for code and is terrible/overcomplex for words I think this is not git problem, rather diff tool it's using? Wonder if using another one, e.g. difftastic[1] would be a better experience. [1]: https://github.com/Wilfred/difftastic https://github.com/Wilfred/difftastic
- BeFlatXIII 3y ago
  I wonder how difftastic would handle a paragraph that got reflowed via a gqip command. Would it show almost every word as changed or only the changed words and ignore the fact that many others now reside on different lines?
petepete 3y ago
If you teach a beginner to use GitHub Desktop lots of the complexities you mention above are smoothed over. The PR/MR is the biggest win, being able to comment on, discuss, suggest, resolve and 'sign off' changes works better in a PR/MR than any other versioned tool I've seen.