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Making these things anathema to commercial interests and making training them at scale legally perilous would be a huge win.
by __loam 3y ago
Making these things anathema to commercial interests and making training them at scale legally perilous would be a huge win.
- mdekkers 3y ago> making training them at scale legally perilous would be a huge win. Why?
- fsckboy 3y agoI have no idea what he's thinking, but if everybody in the community here had an LLM in their pocket and large orgs did not, it would at least be kind of fun.
- __loam 3y agoThe open source people can continue to pretend they matter in this field and large corporations like Microsoft will stop stealing everything that moves on the internet.
- anonymousab 3y agoBecause the megacorps should have to pay the people creating the works they are training their multibillion/eventual multitrillion dollar systems on, and should get a nice rake to the face when they try to do an end run around it.
- StableAlkyne 3y agoA huge win for countries with lax copyright laws. These things aren't going away, the worst case scenario would be exactly that scenario playing out - then China (or some other peer to the US's tech sector) just continues developing them to achieve an economic advantage. All in addition to the obvious political implications of AI chatbots being controlled by them. The LLM genie is out of the bottle: an unfavorable court ruling in a single country isn't going to stuff it back in.
- geysersam 3y agoDo LLM really give an economic advantage though? I've mostly seen them used to write quirky poems and bad code. People are scrambling to find use-cases but it's not very convincing so far. On the other hand, if LLM are used to "launder" copyright content and, accepting the premises of copyright law, this has the effect of reducing incentives to do creative work, that has obvious negative implications for economic productivity.
- StableAlkyne 3y ago> I've mostly seen them used to write quirky poems and bad code. Assuming this is in good faith: the ability to write code, documentation, and tests is absolutely a productivity enhancer to an existing programmer. The code snippets from a dedicated tool like copilot are of very usable quality if you're using a popular language like Python or JS.
- __loam 3y agoI don't give a shit about what China does.
- Dalewyn 3y ago>making training them at scale legally perilous Loading data to which you have no rights over into your software is legally perilous, yes. It's as easy as simply asking for and receiving permission from the data's rightsholders (which might require exchange of coin) to make it not legally perilous.