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I hope people start calling out the "well it's fine if a human does it" arguments out for the rat fuck thinking it is. These are computational systems operating

by __loam 3y ago

I hope people start calling out the "well it's fine if a human does it" arguments out for the rat fuck thinking it is. These are computational systems operating at very large scales run by some of the wealthiest companies in the world. If I go fishing, the regulations I have to comply with are very light because the effect I have on the environment is minimal. The regulations for an industrial fishing barge are rightfully very different, even if the end result is the same fish on your plate.

Garrrrrr 3y ago
unfortunately that's not the crowd of people here. 80% of the comments under this thread (right now, 2:52est) are making similar arguments and *continue* to act like LLMs are doing something unique/creative... instead of just generating sentences, from algorithms, from virtually pirated content in the form of data mining
- kriro9jdjfif 3y ago
  “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/21810-it-is-difficult-to-get-a-man-to-understand-something https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/21810-it-is-difficult-to-ge...
  - __loam 3y ago
    Gotta get that tender offer money somehow.
- c1b 3y ago
  “As if LLMs are doing something creative and aren’t just algorithms” You have no idea what you’re talking about huh?
visarga 3y ago
GPT is like a fleet of small fishing boats, each user driving their boat in another direction, not a fishing barge. For every token written by the model there must be a human who prompted, and then consumed it. It is manual, and personal, and deliberate. In fact all the demonstrations in the lawsuit PDF were intentionally angling for reproducing copyrighted content. They had to push the model to do it. That won't happen unless users deliberately ask for it. It won't happen en-masse.
- __loam 3y ago
  Gpt is operated by one company. If a million people eat your fish, you're still a barge. Boo hoo they had to push it. That was never the problem with these bullshit nozzles. The issue is they put that stuff in the training set in the first place. If you can't be honest about that then I have no interest in debating this with you.

by __loam 3y ago

Garrrrrr 3y ago

unfortunately that's not the crowd of people here. 80% of the comments under this thread (right now, 2:52est) are making similar arguments and *continue* to act like LLMs are doing something unique/creative... instead of just generating sentences, from algorithms, from virtually pirated content in the form of data mining

kriro9jdjfif 3y ago
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/21810-it-is-difficult-to-get-a-man-to-understand-something https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/21810-it-is-difficult-to-ge...
- __loam 3y ago
  Gotta get that tender offer money somehow.
c1b 3y ago
“As if LLMs are doing something creative and aren’t just algorithms” You have no idea what you’re talking about huh?

visarga 3y ago

GPT is like a fleet of small fishing boats, each user driving their boat in another direction, not a fishing barge. For every token written by the model there must be a human who prompted, and then consumed it. It is manual, and personal, and deliberate. In fact all the demonstrations in the lawsuit PDF were intentionally angling for reproducing copyrighted content. They had to push the model to do it. That won't happen unless users deliberately ask for it. It won't happen en-masse.

__loam 3y ago
Gpt is operated by one company. If a million people eat your fish, you're still a barge. Boo hoo they had to push it. That was never the problem with these bullshit nozzles. The issue is they put that stuff in the training set in the first place. If you can't be honest about that then I have no interest in debating this with you.