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Honestly if you could plonk down a ton of money for a reliable appliance that’d be great but that’s usually not what money buys you now. Spending more usually r

Honestly if you could plonk down a ton of money for a reliable appliance that’d be great but that’s usually not what money buys you now. Spending more usually results in fancier styling, nicer materials if you’re lucky, and a bunch of unnecessary technological frippery that ends up making the thing less reliable, not more. That’s the real problem is that the luxury tier of so many markets has thoroughly enshittified. I generally trust that Apple computers are Toyotas and a few other brands tend to last (or at least have robust enough support structures in place like with the former) enough that I feel more comfortable owning them but few others earn that trust from me. I’ve heard good things about Miele vacuums, but apparently only the heavy duty canister vacs. Their more consumer friendly uprights are apparently mediocre. Other appliances I have no idea.

jonahss 3y ago
the Miele vacuums are incredible. If you want appliances that last, buy the commercial ones. Hobart makes an under counter dishwasher that you can bet will never wear out and can be repaired. Shell out for an industrial washing machine like they have at the laundromats. Those things are made to run all day for years. If they break down, they're repairable.
- robocat 3y ago
  My Miele dishwasher has totally failed less than 5 years old. Not worth the expensive price. Probably fixable but requires a multi-hundred-$ relay. I haven't fixed it because of my time cost (such a hassle). Previously bought a much cheaper dishwasher for my previous house that is still going strong. I found a geeky person on the sales floor that dealt with dishwasher returns and asked his advice for buying a reliable one: his advice seems to have been solid. I recommend trying this approach. Unfortunately we can no longer trust brand names. Most previously trustworthy brands have turned to shit. I now mostly aim for mediocrity because that seems to be the sweet spot (cheap is usually trash, expensive usually is poor value for money). It is very difficult to make good decisions for most purchases - requiring too much effort and brainspace. I never want to learn the details of appliances but I am given little choice. The other problem is that the UX/UI of many modern devices has gone to complete shit. Searching for a usable appliance is a nightmare.
  - strix_varius 3y ago
    Having remodeled several kitchens, this has also been my experience. If there were a brand that released exactly one of each appliance, over-built that one model, and invested the budget in robust components instead of wifi smart home touch screen bullshit, I would love to stop becoming an expert in all these product categories.
- c22 3y ago
  The industrial washing machine will last a long time and it is repairable if it breaks down. But the one guy on this coast who services and can get parts for it is pretty busy and if you can't offer him a long-term contract to maintain thirty of them you may find yourself fairly low on his priority list.
- paleface 3y ago
  > Shell out for an industrial washing machine like they have at the laundromats. Those things are made to run all day for years. If they break down, they're repairable. Industrial - or old school, Hoovermatic twin tub, where you can choose the exact length(s), of your wash/rinse - albeit, by babysitting it.

jonahss 3y ago

the Miele vacuums are incredible. If you want appliances that last, buy the commercial ones. Hobart makes an under counter dishwasher that you can bet will never wear out and can be repaired. Shell out for an industrial washing machine like they have at the laundromats. Those things are made to run all day for years. If they break down, they're repairable.

robocat 3y ago
My Miele dishwasher has totally failed less than 5 years old. Not worth the expensive price. Probably fixable but requires a multi-hundred-$ relay. I haven't fixed it because of my time cost (such a hassle). Previously bought a much cheaper dishwasher for my previous house that is still going strong. I found a geeky person on the sales floor that dealt with dishwasher returns and asked his advice for buying a reliable one: his advice seems to have been solid. I recommend trying this approach. Unfortunately we can no longer trust brand names. Most previously trustworthy brands have turned to shit. I now mostly aim for mediocrity because that seems to be the sweet spot (cheap is usually trash, expensive usually is poor value for money). It is very difficult to make good decisions for most purchases - requiring too much effort and brainspace. I never want to learn the details of appliances but I am given little choice. The other problem is that the UX/UI of many modern devices has gone to complete shit. Searching for a usable appliance is a nightmare.
- strix_varius 3y ago
  Having remodeled several kitchens, this has also been my experience. If there were a brand that released exactly one of each appliance, over-built that one model, and invested the budget in robust components instead of wifi smart home touch screen bullshit, I would love to stop becoming an expert in all these product categories.
c22 3y ago
The industrial washing machine will last a long time and it is repairable if it breaks down. But the one guy on this coast who services and can get parts for it is pretty busy and if you can't offer him a long-term contract to maintain thirty of them you may find yourself fairly low on his priority list.
paleface 3y ago
> Shell out for an industrial washing machine like they have at the laundromats. Those things are made to run all day for years. If they break down, they're repairable. Industrial - or old school, Hoovermatic twin tub, where you can choose the exact length(s), of your wash/rinse - albeit, by babysitting it.