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> Thank you, we've put a ton of work into this. Sorry; I was being unnecessarily ironic because there really is no "quantum safe" things yet. Otherwise nice wo

> Thank you, we've put a ton of work into this. Sorry; I was being unnecessarily ironic because there really is no "quantum safe" things yet. Otherwise nice work; always nice to see more competition in this space!

forwardemail 3y ago
RE: Competition: We are the *only* email service provider that is 100% open-source. Proton Mail [1], Skiff [2], and Tuta [3] all have closed-source back-ends, despite advertising as closed-source. RE: Quantum Safe: ChaCha20-Poly1305 is generally considered to be quantum safe [4] [5]. [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/b847n7/comment/ejysilb/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/b847n7/comment/... [2]: https://www.reddit.com/r/Skiff/comments/10yn8a5/comment/j811jki/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Skiff/comments/10yn8a5/comment/j811... [3]: https://www.reddit.com/r/tutanota/comments/10hghin/comment/j5in1wp/ https://www.reddit.com/r/tutanota/comments/10hghin/comment/j... [4]: https://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/79518/is-xchacha20-poly1305-quantum-resistant https://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/79518/is-xchacha2... [5]: https://old.reddit.com/r/crypto/comments/suk2k7/is_chacha20poly1305_quantumsecure/ https://old.reddit.com/r/crypto/comments/suk2k7/is_chacha20p...
- ktm5j 3y ago
  Umm do you have any better sources for the crypto claims than Stack Exchange and Reddit? That's not really putting my mind at ease.
josephcsible 3y ago
> there really is no "quantum safe" things yet What about, e.g., OpenSSH's post-quantum key exchange sntrup761x25519-sha512@openssh.com?
- jruohonen 3y ago
  > sntrup761x25519-sha512@openssh.com? I am not an expert in this space but, as far as I can tell, these are all work-in-progress, as is quantum computing itself. There are several research groups and committees involved, including at, say, IETF and the like.

forwardemail 3y ago

RE: Competition: We are the *only* email service provider that is 100% open-source. Proton Mail [1], Skiff [2], and Tuta [3] all have closed-source back-ends, despite advertising as closed-source. RE: Quantum Safe: ChaCha20-Poly1305 is generally considered to be quantum safe [4] [5]. [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/b847n7/comment/ejysilb/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/b847n7/comment/... [2]: https://www.reddit.com/r/Skiff/comments/10yn8a5/comment/j811jki/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Skiff/comments/10yn8a5/comment/j811... [3]: https://www.reddit.com/r/tutanota/comments/10hghin/comment/j5in1wp/ https://www.reddit.com/r/tutanota/comments/10hghin/comment/j... [4]: https://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/79518/is-xchacha20-poly1305-quantum-resistant https://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/79518/is-xchacha2... [5]: https://old.reddit.com/r/crypto/comments/suk2k7/is_chacha20poly1305_quantumsecure/ https://old.reddit.com/r/crypto/comments/suk2k7/is_chacha20p...

ktm5j 3y ago
Umm do you have any better sources for the crypto claims than Stack Exchange and Reddit? That's not really putting my mind at ease.

josephcsible 3y ago

> there really is no "quantum safe" things yet What about, e.g., OpenSSH's post-quantum key exchange sntrup761x25519-sha512@openssh.com?

jruohonen 3y ago
> sntrup761x25519-sha512@openssh.com? I am not an expert in this space but, as far as I can tell, these are all work-in-progress, as is quantum computing itself. There are several research groups and committees involved, including at, say, IETF and the like.