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What happens if you flip the property->agriculture assertion, instead agriculture->property. This regime makes more sense to me, especially when considering th
by brnaftr361 3y ago
What happens if you flip the property->agriculture assertion, instead agriculture->property.
This regime makes more sense to me, especially when considering the supposed nutritional poverty that the earliest agricultural societies are said to have experienced. "I worked this land, the yield is... mine..?" leading to conflict which eventually necessitated state and thus defined property rights. And this then allowed for vertical hierarchical development as "old money" was in possession of the most fertile land. I'll read through your paper here shortly, perhaps I'll find the answer.
- AndrewKemendo 3y agoProperty in the form of “excludable and rival” was invented when we had to start hoarding megafauna- aka nomadic cattle herding. This preceded agriculture. I have an additional hypothesis that agriculture actually came out of having to feed livestock rather than trying to feed people directly
- brnaftr361 3y agoInteresting, I suppose I overlooked the fact that they're indeed separate modalities, I suppose it's because most of my reading originates at the beginning of the historical record. It's not something I had explicitly considered, though I do recall one instance mentioned in Dawn of Everything. Do you have any reading that you'd suggest on the topic?
- AndrewKemendo 3y agoI mean honestly the dawn of everything covers most of the ground I think my theory fills in the section at the end i think on page 510 where they ask “how did we get stuck?” Blood relations from Chris knight was uniquely important to my research though. The chalice and the blade though is a great if older foundation here
- timeon 3y agoRecently there was posted article here on HN about excavations of some hunter-gatherer fort.