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Last I checked they're also outcompeting everyone in new coal plants https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160441919/china-is-building-six-times-more-new-coal-plants-

Last I checked they're also outcompeting everyone in new coal plants https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160441919/china-is-building-six-times-more-new-coal-plants-than-other-countries-report-fin https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160441919/china-is-building-...

grecy 3y ago
If I'm up against you in a beer drinking contest and I drink more beer AND more whisky than you... I still win the beer drinking contest.
- fastball 3y ago
  Complete non-sequitur. OP said "China is building nuclear", not "China is building more nuclear than wind/solar".
ViewTrick1002 3y ago
Their capacity factors are getting ever lower and at the same time they added more renewables than the growth for the electricity grid. In other words, their CO2 emissions are set for structural decline simply by the amount of renewables being built. China is way ahead of the west. https://theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/13/chinas-carbon-emissions-set-for-structural-decline-from-next-year https://theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/13/chinas-carbon-e...
- doikor 3y ago
  Some parts of the west already did that years ago in electricity production. For example carbon free electricity production shares in France (88%), Sweden (98%), Finland (90%), etc. Though there is still a lot of work to do to go fully CO2 neutral due to cars, trucks, ships, planes, fertiliser production, etc.
- neither_color 3y ago
  My concern is that, since it's harmful to the planet and they're on track to be the largest economy, their absolute coal output is more relevant to the rest of the world than what percentage of its respective GDP it is. I don't necessarily blame them since their main priority is their own growth, but we're relying on their good will in 2030 without any way to enforce reduction if they change their mind.

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Last I checked they're also outcompeting everyone in new coal plants https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160441919/china-is-building-six-times-more-new-coal-plants-

by neither_color 3y ago

grecy 3y ago
If I'm up against you in a beer drinking contest and I drink more beer AND more whisky than you... I still win the beer drinking contest.
- fastball 3y ago
  Complete non-sequitur. OP said "China is building nuclear", not "China is building more nuclear than wind/solar".
ViewTrick1002 3y ago
Their capacity factors are getting ever lower and at the same time they added more renewables than the growth for the electricity grid. In other words, their CO2 emissions are set for structural decline simply by the amount of renewables being built. China is way ahead of the west. https://theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/13/chinas-carbon-emissions-set-for-structural-decline-from-next-year https://theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/13/chinas-carbon-e...
- doikor 3y ago
  Some parts of the west already did that years ago in electricity production. For example carbon free electricity production shares in France (88%), Sweden (98%), Finland (90%), etc. Though there is still a lot of work to do to go fully CO2 neutral due to cars, trucks, ships, planes, fertiliser production, etc.
- neither_color 3y ago
  My concern is that, since it's harmful to the planet and they're on track to be the largest economy, their absolute coal output is more relevant to the rest of the world than what percentage of its respective GDP it is. I don't necessarily blame them since their main priority is their own growth, but we're relying on their good will in 2030 without any way to enforce reduction if they change their mind.