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Then go and get funding for it! Because apparently you know better than anyone else who was involved in defining this strategy. And given many, to domain expert

by hef19898 3y ago

Then go and get funding for it! Because apparently you know better than anyone else who was involved in defining this strategy. And given many, to domain experts, just hairbrained ideas get, or used to get, VC funding, it should be easy, right? And a tremendous market, just imagine what a hyper-unicorn one can build by having the monopoly on power the cargo vessels of the future!

Manuel_D 3y ago
Venture capitalists expect most of their bets to fail. It's very possible that none of their synthetic fuel startups will succeed. It is not at all reasonable to assume that a technological breakthrough will transpire just because venture capitalists are funding it. Otherwise, we should just sit back and let nuclear fusion solve climate change. Surely you don't think you know better than the VCs funding fusion, right? And for what it's worth, some shipbuilders are exploring nuclear cargo ships: https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/maritime-industry-explores-nuclear-power-ships-technology-opens-up-2023-09-19/ https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/maritime-industry-exp...
- hef19898 3y ago
  The important bit is about the timeline: At least ten yeara to proof of concept. There is no industrial base dor this at the moment. And then there is the IRENA commission, tasked with developing a strategy to decarbonize shipping, and they went with green fuel instead of nuclear. And that commission included ship builders, operators and other domain experts.
  - Manuel_D 3y ago
    The International Renewable Energy Agency's [1] job is to advocate for more widespread adoption of wind and solar. Nuclear power threatens that objective. This is about as naive as trusting fossil fuel companies' paid-for scientists on climate change. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Renewable_Energy_Agency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Renewable_Energy...
    - hef19898 3y ago
      Than take it from those folks: https://cms.globalmaritimeforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Getting-to-Zero-Coalition_Mapping-of-Zero-Emission-Pilots-and-Demonstration-Projects_Fourth-edition.pdf https://cms.globalmaritimeforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/... -> page 9 refernces the hydrogen and amonium based fuels That was developed in the frame of this: https://unctad.org/news/transport-newsletter-article-no-108-net-zero-by-2050 https://unctad.org/news/transport-newsletter-article-no-108-... The IRENA page provided said information in an easier to digest form so. The only source talking about nuclear reactors for civilian shipping was that Reuters article. Personally, I'd take exhaustive reports and internationally accepted strategies above some statement made towards Reuters.

Manuel_D 3y ago

Venture capitalists expect most of their bets to fail. It's very possible that none of their synthetic fuel startups will succeed. It is not at all reasonable to assume that a technological breakthrough will transpire just because venture capitalists are funding it. Otherwise, we should just sit back and let nuclear fusion solve climate change. Surely you don't think you know better than the VCs funding fusion, right? And for what it's worth, some shipbuilders are exploring nuclear cargo ships: https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/maritime-industry-explores-nuclear-power-ships-technology-opens-up-2023-09-19/ https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/maritime-industry-exp...

hef19898 3y ago
The important bit is about the timeline: At least ten yeara to proof of concept. There is no industrial base dor this at the moment. And then there is the IRENA commission, tasked with developing a strategy to decarbonize shipping, and they went with green fuel instead of nuclear. And that commission included ship builders, operators and other domain experts.
- Manuel_D 3y ago
  The International Renewable Energy Agency's [1] job is to advocate for more widespread adoption of wind and solar. Nuclear power threatens that objective. This is about as naive as trusting fossil fuel companies' paid-for scientists on climate change. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Renewable_Energy_Agency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Renewable_Energy...
  - hef19898 3y ago
    Than take it from those folks: https://cms.globalmaritimeforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Getting-to-Zero-Coalition_Mapping-of-Zero-Emission-Pilots-and-Demonstration-Projects_Fourth-edition.pdf https://cms.globalmaritimeforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/... -> page 9 refernces the hydrogen and amonium based fuels That was developed in the frame of this: https://unctad.org/news/transport-newsletter-article-no-108-net-zero-by-2050 https://unctad.org/news/transport-newsletter-article-no-108-... The IRENA page provided said information in an easier to digest form so. The only source talking about nuclear reactors for civilian shipping was that Reuters article. Personally, I'd take exhaustive reports and internationally accepted strategies above some statement made towards Reuters.