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What if he hurts other people? Those considerations are also part of life.

toomuchtodo 3y ago
Then he hurts someone and/or himself, just like you can’t stop any other driver out there with a license to pilot thousands of pounds of vehicular manslaughter. We have, in aggregate, decided to accept this risk for the benefit of mobility.
- wolverine876 3y ago
  This seems like bizarre philosphical cover for someone recklessly injuring or killing someone else, which obviously is not accepted socially, morally, or legally.
  - ericmay 3y ago
    I think you’re really over-risking Elon Musk (whom I loathe) and Autopilot and not understanding that on a day to day basis you will deal with drivers who are far, far more dangerous than Elon with Autopilot without the nudges. Don’t mistake a dislike for a rich guy seeming to get something others can’t have with actual risk assessment.
    - wolverine876 3y ago
      > Don’t mistake a dislike for a rich guy Maybe you shouldn't try to read other people's minds. :)
      - ericmay 3y ago
        I didn’t, I just read the comments. It is completely and utterly unremarkable that Elon Musk has the “don’t nudge” version of Autopilot. It’s not a news story. It’s not a safety hazard. It’s not worth even commenting on. But since we are here because “Elon something something” it’s important to point out that it is unremarkable and being worried or even considering that to be a safety risk is very silly. Once you realize how dangerous driving in general is and how batshit crazy many drivers are, you would also realize Elon and his car is not a story or fact that is worth discussing. Let me put it plainly: if you find yourself thinking about or concerned with Elon Musk driving a car, as soon as that thought enters your mind you should instead think about the tens of thousands who die every year in the US alone from pointless car crashes with or without driver assistant technology and stop letting yourself be distracted by actual problems and instead help find ways to get people out of their cars so we can save lives, decrease obesity, and increase wealth.
- lamontcg 3y ago
  Here I thought the ultimate promise of autonomous self driving cars was to eliminate this kind of logic.

Then he hurts someone and/or himself, just like you can’t stop any other driver out there with a license to pilot thousands of pounds of vehicular manslaughter. We have, in aggregate, decided to accept this risk for the benefit of mobility.

wolverine876 3y ago
This seems like bizarre philosphical cover for someone recklessly injuring or killing someone else, which obviously is not accepted socially, morally, or legally.
- ericmay 3y ago
  I think you’re really over-risking Elon Musk (whom I loathe) and Autopilot and not understanding that on a day to day basis you will deal with drivers who are far, far more dangerous than Elon with Autopilot without the nudges. Don’t mistake a dislike for a rich guy seeming to get something others can’t have with actual risk assessment.
  - wolverine876 3y ago
    > Don’t mistake a dislike for a rich guy Maybe you shouldn't try to read other people's minds. :)
    - ericmay 3y ago
      I didn’t, I just read the comments. It is completely and utterly unremarkable that Elon Musk has the “don’t nudge” version of Autopilot. It’s not a news story. It’s not a safety hazard. It’s not worth even commenting on. But since we are here because “Elon something something” it’s important to point out that it is unremarkable and being worried or even considering that to be a safety risk is very silly. Once you realize how dangerous driving in general is and how batshit crazy many drivers are, you would also realize Elon and his car is not a story or fact that is worth discussing. Let me put it plainly: if you find yourself thinking about or concerned with Elon Musk driving a car, as soon as that thought enters your mind you should instead think about the tens of thousands who die every year in the US alone from pointless car crashes with or without driver assistant technology and stop letting yourself be distracted by actual problems and instead help find ways to get people out of their cars so we can save lives, decrease obesity, and increase wealth.
lamontcg 3y ago
Here I thought the ultimate promise of autonomous self driving cars was to eliminate this kind of logic.